
There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid income for the producer. An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free. There is never any call to be rude.

-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@toad.com]On Behalf Of Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk Sent: 19 November 1998 15:15 To: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: manners
There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid income for the producer. An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
There is never any call to be rude.
It is _rude_ to ask for stolen goods - particularly when implicating everyone on this list as an accessory to intent to commit piracy - who does not report this luser to the authorities in the - process. It is also rude to send inappropriate posts to this mailing list. This is the cypherpunks mailing list - Not an IRC or hotline channel. Warez requests are wholly inappropriate for this list, please read the FAQ! The suggestion to seek free alternatives is well grounded, although I'd add that they would more appropriately be sent directly to the poster (with a polite note referring him to the FAQ). Regards, Iain Collins, <dev-null@icollins.sol.co.uk>

At 10:48 AM 11-19-98 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Nonsense. I am not "implicated" as an accessory to anything. Speak for yourself only.
There is no basis in law for the notion that several hundred subscribers to a mailing list are implicated in something because others talk about it. Get real.
One might as well claim that all the millions of subscribers to the LA Times are "implicated" as accessories to an act that was described in the paper's pages. -Declan

At 8:21 AM -0800 11/19/98, Iain Collins wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@toad.com]On Behalf Of Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk Sent: 19 November 1998 15:15 To: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: manners
There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid income for the producer. An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
There is never any call to be rude.
It is _rude_ to ask for stolen goods - particularly when implicating everyone on this list as an accessory to intent to commit piracy - who does not report this luser to the authorities in the - process.
Nonsense. I am not "implicated" as an accessory to anything. Speak for yourself only. There is no basis in law for the notion that several hundred subscribers to a mailing list are implicated in something because others talk about it. Get real. As for the claim that we are "lusers" if we don't report this request, let us know how your own report is received. I will check for your posts regularly, and report you to the proper authorities if you fail in your self-declared duty here. --Tim May Common Y2K line: "I'm not preparing, but I know where _you_ live." ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk wrote:
There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid income for the producer. An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
There is never any call to be rude.
Way to go, Dick!
participants (5)
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Declan McCullagh
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Iain Collins
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Rabid Wombat
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Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk
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Tim May