signoff LEGITIMACY-OF-GOVT-L@toad.com Sorry, but I didn't know I'd subscribed to an alt.talk.politics-style or alt.anarchy-style mailing list. The discussion is interesting, and the essays erudite, but the topic is not what I was looking for. Can someone tell me if there's a list around somewhere that cypherpunks use to discuss the means and mechanisms, and the pros and cons of open and guerilla crypto? Richard (for the humor impaired... ;-)