Re: China joins Singapore, Germany, ....

At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information about "the Holocaust,"
In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in the back, prison isn't much of a penalty.
prison terms (or worse) for dissidents in Burma, China, and, of course, various other nations and "democratic people's republics."
Even here in the United States, connecting to an illegal site may mean imprisonment. (The charge: trafficking in child pornography, for example.)
The percentage of total hits that will end in jail terms or executions is meaninglessly small as a percentage of total hits, though. You must admit that a ban on 100 sites out of all the sites in the world is pretty insignificant. The swamping effects of thousands and soon millions of sites means the governments of the world won't even be able to evaluate a significant percentage even if they want to. And all this *before* we apply any of our technical fixes. DCF

Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes:
At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information about "the Holocaust,"
In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in the back, prison isn't much of a penalty.
I'm sure the sentense would have been different if she weren't a Slavic untermensch, or if he were, say, a Turk. A friend of mine related how his father - a Jew and a Soviet Army officer - commanded a company in WW2. In 1944 they came across a church where over a thousand Nazi soldiers surrendered without reistance. He announced them "Ich bin ain Jude" and had them all executed. I think he did the right thing. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes: At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information about "the Holocaust," In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in the back, prison isn't much of a penalty. I'm sure the sentense would have been different if she weren't a Slavic untermensch, or if he were, say, a Turk. A friend of mine related how his father - a Jew and a Soviet Army officer - commanded a company in WW2. In 1944 they came across a > church where over a thousand Nazi soldiers surrendered without reistance. He announced them "Ich bin ain Jude" and had them all executed. I think he did the right thing. Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
First of all, soldiers are just the little guys, like you and me, no more "Nazis" than "Communists" or whatever we Americans are in the eyes of the third world, etc. Remember the Godfather scene where Al Pacino is walking through the town in Sicily and he says "where are all the men?"? You can "justify" revenge all you want, and what do you get? Honor? Justice? You get a lot of dead people, and in the next generation, nobody gives a shit. Oh, they "continue" the mindless hatred of earlier generations, spurred on by (take your pick here), but you can't really connect the issues seamlessly across generations, unless you simplify them in the extreme, such as "starvation and deprivation are a causative factor in war", or some such thing. Economic opportunity is certainly a leading cause in war and genocide, i.e., in a "free" world society, it should be easier to remove a profit motive than to remove starvation, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net> writes:
First of all, soldiers are just the little guys, like you and me, no more "Nazis" than "Communists" or whatever we Americans are in the eyes of the third world, etc.
Nazi POWs were Nazis and deserved to be killed. Likewise, American soldiers are murderous scum. I wish Saddam Hussein the best of luck in killing every American he can get. P.S. Please do not cc: me. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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