From: nobody@huge.cajones.com/aka Red Rackham It's not the Cypherpunks that are crazy - it's the world! ;-) ........................................................ That's right, Red. <g> Actually, I'm not in need of persuasion regarding the subject of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise). I'm aware of human nature and the frailties of intellect/psychology which can affect the results. It's easy to trust another's word when one does not have much knowledge of what can go wrong or doesn't know "how to know", or how to distinguish between fact & fancy. It's also easy to ignore evidence even when it is blatantly apparent, so that no amount of persuasion will convince a person to give up a mistaken conclusion. There are vested interests at work in the things people do, and it is sometimes shocking to realize that these have been at play when one wasn't expecting it, as in your example from Richard Feynman. That is why it is very important to always note whose interest is being served in any sort of persuasive bit of news from any source. A good question to keep in mind is "what are they trying to accomplish". .. Blanc