You have cashed my check....
Dear First Virtual, You now present puzzling information. You have cashed my check. So why are you telling me that you have no bank information. You stated that the check itself provided the bank information. If this situation persists, I will forward said materials and correspondence to the State of Minnesota Attorney General's Office, and the U.S. District Attorney's Office for prosecution. For what you have connumicated so far surely appears fraudulent. I don't have much money as it is. But then maybe (considering all of the lag time) this is your scam. Maybe this is entirely legitimate, and just an honest mistake. I have added below your opening correspodence of July 18th, the day before the check cashed. Awaitng your response, Carol Anne Braddock Exhibit #1 - Acct. Acceptance Status
From carolann@censored.orgTue Jul 25 17:50:44 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:24:22 -0500 From: UnCensored Girls Anonymous <carolann@censored.org> To: cab@censored.org
X-UIDL: 805661824.000 From: sgcs-server@card.com To: carolann@censored.org Y-Tag: 950611397619 Subject: newacct-result Comments: generated by via-btl.tcl - Enabled Mail (EM) environment for UNIX Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:35:00 -0400 Reply-to: support-newacct@card.com X-Status: The account for Carol Anne Braddock is now activated. Your First Virtual account identifier is: newt-carolann Please SAVE YOUR FIRST VIRTUAL ACCOUNT IDENTIFIER, and use it when you buy or sell information. (NOTE: This account identifier differs from the ID-choice that you provided when you applied for your account. We have added a unique prefix.) You may begin using your account to sell information over the Internet immediately! Exhibit #2 Your Letter Today.
From sgcs-server@card.comTue Jul 25 18:32:24 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:23:24 -0500 From: sgcs-server@card.com To: cab8@censored.org Subject: change in account status
This is an automated message from First Virtual's Internet Payment System. When we tried to verify the the bank account information associated with Carol Anne Braddock, the verification failed. INVALID ACCOUNT NUMBER Once this matter is corrected, we will be able to pay you for your sales. If you have changed your checking account, please follow the directions below. Otherwise, please send e-mail to: support-payout-failure@card.com CHANGING THE CHECKING ACCOUNT NUMBER USED FOR PAYMENT If you wish to change the account number of the checking account used to pay you, please send e-mail to: chgacct@card.com The ENTIRE body of your message should contain EXACTLY two lines: Account-ID: your First Virtual account identifier Financial-Changes: yes We will send you a confirming note. After you confirm, we will send you e-mail with a new application-ID and instructions on sending us a check for $10.00 (ten US dollars, to cover our paper processing expenses). -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann@censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/
First of all, let me publicly apologize for any role we may have played in your problem. I don't yet know if there's a bug in our system or EDS' system that caused this to happen, but if so I assure you it will be found and fixed. We are investigating. I am responding now -- in advance of any real facts to offer you -- primarily because you sent a CC of your mail to so many public lists. The "humanhelp" address on your mail will feed into a complex customer support department, from which you should already have received an automatic acknowledgement and a "tracking code". You should receive a response from one of our human operators within 48 hours. However, the way that the humanhelp software works, those answers will NOT automatically be CC'ed to cypherpunks and all the other places you CC'ed your question. Therefore I am answering you now in order to assure everyone who saw your message (via those widespread CC's) that it is indeed being handled through the normal channels, but that FV's responses will not be widely cc'ed. It will come to you alone, as private mail. In general, it isn't necessary to CC the world on your first interaction with a customer service department; perhaps if you had sent us several messages and we hadn't answered you, this would have been an appropriate response. As it is, the situation is almost certainly either a human error in the data entry for your bank account or a hitherto-undiscovered software bug. But we have many happy sellers who can attest to the fact that we do regularly deposit money in their bank accounts. It's not a scam. Please don't assume the worst until you give us a chance to diagnose and fix the problem. (In fact, if it were a scam, why would we send you an alarming-looking letter telling you that your bank account information appears to be invalid? It seems to me that it would be much smarter for us to just quietly eat your money, if that's what we wanted to do!) I assume that you did not, in fact, close or otherwise change your bank account -- if you did, that would certainly explain the whole episode, and our system would be functioning completely as intended. We will proceed in our investigation under the assumption that this is not the case, and will let you know (via private email) what we find out. At some point, someone may need to contact you via telephone to verify your account information. Stay tuned. -- Nathaniel -------- Nathaniel S. Borenstein <nsb@fv.com> | When privacy is outlawed, Chief Scientist, First Virtual Holdings | only outlaws will have privacy! FAQ & PGP key: nsb+faq@nsb.fv.com | SUPPORT THE ZIMMERMAN DEFENSE FUND! ---VIRTUAL YELLOW RIBBON-->> zldf@clark.net <http://www.netresponse.com/zldf>
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