Jim Bell web pages
I've got my original page with the scans of the search warrant/affidavit/return at <http://www.parrhesia.com/jimbell/>, and a second page collecting various links to media reports, etc., at <http://www.parrhesia.com/jimbell/index2.html>. The Columbian (Jim's hometown paper) has a number of articles about him and the progress of his case at <http://www.columbian.com/newsroom/jimbell/jimbell.html>. There are also some miscellaneous documents that the Columbian may or may not intend to make available to the public available at <http://www.columbian.com/newsroom/jimbell/> (I don't think they realize that a directory without an index document will return a directory list. :) John Young has collected several documents re Jim, which are cataloged at the beginning of the document at <http://www.jya.com/jimbell-dock2.htm>. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles@netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'd appreciate some EMAIL comments on what anonymous remailers are used for, in particular the remailer at anon.efga.org. The "Georgia Cracker" remailer, like any remailer, has had several people complain about it's existence. While I've received various emails telling me the remailer is a bad thing, including veiled legal threats, I've yet to see even one note that tells why it is a good thing. I'd appreciate some comments on why the system should be maintained. There are two main reasons for this. First, I need to explain to others at EFGA why this remailer is being maintained. Secondly, I need to write an affidavit explaining why the remailer should not be shut down. I'd really appreciate anyone who has used anon.efga.org EMAILing me with what purpose it serves. Anonymous comments are of course very welcome. Thanks, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM/kWkkGpGhRXg5NZAQEV5wH/f/3WGKDWAJVjE8UeGojp3xE5IMNAstq4 lZJc+C9vAlF5knO5r5ODym8aecXF1+EsU+xta8809+BSGARTrDvAkw== =VZW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key
At 09:14 PM 8/18/97 -0700, Jonathan Wienke wrote:
Is there any Eudora plug-in that allows anyone using Eudora to operate a remailer? I would think that if anyone with Eudora and an email account can chain remail PGP encrypted messages for others a la mixmaster, etc. it would be much harder to shut down 40,000 remailers tham 40.
Joey Grasty's Winsock Remailer isn't a Eudora plug-in, but it does let you use a standard POP3 mailbox to run the remailer from, and has a mode that lets you share the mailbox between remailer and non-remailer mail. If I remember right, it currently needs WIN3.1 due to some bugs that make it flaky on Win95, and I assume it only uses PGP 2.6.x rather than the new PGP5.0 interfaces. But it does know how to do PGP-only mode. Eudora would be an interesting platform if you could convince the plug-in to run along with your spam filters and the PGP plug-in and have everything done in the right order. You'd also have the problem of putting the right headers on the message - it's nicer if it can get a different From: header for remailer mail than for real mail, so people who don't like remailer mail can flame you accurately :-) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list or news, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)
On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 stewarts@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Eudora would be an interesting platform if you could convince the plug-in to run along with your spam filters and the PGP plug-in and have everything done in the right order. You'd also have the problem of putting the right headers on the message - it's nicer if it can get a different From: header for remailer mail than for real mail, so people who don't like remailer mail can flame you accurately :-)
If I recall correctly, Eudora uses standard mailbox format just like Pine, Elm and other unix like mailers, so it is possible to write a filter program that would go through the mailbox file and do stuff for you, such as stripping away headers. Here's a question for those that use Eudora: is there a way to have Eudora run stuff for you on incoming mail? That is when it goes out and connects to the POP3 server and downloads the mail, can it launch another application to munge the new inbox? If so, it should be easy enough to take the incoming mail and process it - say using perl, VB or whatever, and you can probably just append stuff to the outbox. (Other question, can Eudora be told to send outgoing mail at certain hours? If not, you'll have to have the program telnet out for you to port 25 of the SMTP...) I've done similar things in Perl (not using Eudora) for the bots that run my filtered cypherpunks list. One bot scrounges through my mailbox looking for admin requests, another sends filtered mail out when enough has queued up. Would be trivial enough to turn them into a remailer by glueing PGP to the mix. :) =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================
Once again Tim's ability to convey information befuddles my ability to respond. While I would support Tim's suggestion that the KKK has as much right to use an anonymous remailer as much as anyone, Tim doesn't provide much help here. When looking into which court to sue Georgia in over anonymity, we had a choice between Federal Court and State court. While the Georgia's 11th district Federal court has been pro free speech and we thought would favor anonymity, the state court has not been so respectful of the constitution. The Georgia State court's last ruling on anonymity was to declare that anonymity was illegal. The case in point is that a KKK member wanted to wear his mask in public. As is the case in several states, Georgia passed a law declaring the use of a mask to be illegal. This was upheld by the state supreme court. The real problem here was not anonymity, but the use of the KKK as a representation of why anonymity should be allowed. Had this been a 10 year old in a Halloween mask on the last day of October, the case would surely have gone differently. So much for the conceptual reasons why Tim's comment does not help. On a more "where the rubber hits the road" view, Tim's comment fails on the grounds that he apparently has nothing to do with the Georgia KKK. In Georgia, while we have won a temporary injunction and assume we will see the law fully struck down, EFGA is still involved in lawsuit against the state over internet anonymity. I actually don't contemplate another affidavit in this case, but it may happen. If I need to write another affidavit in support of the remailer, I will only have about two weeks to get it done. We hope the Georgia lawsuit will resolve itself in another 30 days or so. I'm actually more concerned about action against the remailer itself. I wouldn't be surprised to be approached concerning criminal charges against myself concerning the remailer's operation. We began discussing this with attorneys and others more than a year ago. I have no idea what the court would make of my submission of material I received anonymously. While I could submit "I have been told....", "I have received comments that tell me...", I can't personally testify under oath to Tim's example of removing the ZOG gov't. I can state that I've been told the remailer has been used for purposes that I wouldn't personally approve of and express my apologies to parents of a particular little girl. The fact remains that unsolicited feedback on the system has not been good comments. We could use a good story or two. Another issue is internal in the operation of the remailer itself. While I'm not the only one involved in the operation of the remailer, I get called on to defend it's existence. The question of why to have a remailer, and the question of why to set up and run a remailer are two different things. The remailer sounds good in theory. Actual operation of the system is a different thing entirely. The remailer is more than just a pain. It is a time-bomb waiting to go off. If anyone has any comments on how they have used the Georgia Cracker remailer, I'd appreciate the comments being emailed to me. Anonymously or not. -- Robert, pooh@efga.org At 10:06 PM 8/18/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
You made a lot of hay about setting it up, if I recall correctly. If you didn't know what remailers are, and what they protect, why did you set it up?
More to the point, do you think anybody is now going to "break anonymity" to tell you that anon.efga.org allowed them to notify the authorities that their father was raping their baby sister? Or that it allowed Hamas supporters to funnel technical information to drive the ZOG government out of Jerusalem? Or whatever.
And if someone used a remailer to send you accounts of what anon.efga.org was used for, would you trust these accounts? ... An affidavit sounds like a legal statement. If you "need to write an affidavit explaining why the remailer should not be shut down, " just who is threatening to shut it down?
Tell them the anon.efga.org remailer is an important conduit for protecting the secure communications of the Grand Wizards of the Ku Klux Klan, a Georgia organization. If they balk, ask if the Klan does not have a right of free speech and security in their papers and homes.
Robert A. Costner wrote:
If anyone has any comments on how they have used the Georgia Cracker remailer, I'd appreciate the comments being emailed to me. Anonymously or not.
-- Robert, pooh@efga.org
Robert, I regularly teach members of health and mental-health mailing lists and support groups how to use anonymous remailers, as well as how to forge their headers to prevent remailer operators from discovering their identity. A number of these people are from southern states, including Georgia, and have indicated that they find the ability to post anonymously to health groups very valuable in allaying fears of their sharing of personal health information coming back to haunt them. In particular, I advise people who are afflicted with such medical conditions as Tourette Syndrome and OCD to use anonymous remailers if they find (or fear) that their impulsivity in screaming "Bullshit!" when they smell bullshit will cause them trouble in the future. Personally, when I email politicians and the like, I usually use anonymous remailers, including the Georgia Cracker, so that I don't have to worry about being discriminated against and/or investigated and/or imprisoned for being afflicted with a physical and mental condition which causes me great discomfort when I am forced to tell polite lies under the guise of free speech. In short, a ratfucker is a ratfucker is a ratfucker, and if anyone objects to being called one, then they should make an effort not to be one, rather than calling for my head on a platter because I call a spade a spade (or a "fucking shovel"). Two nights ago I began to teach my niece and her high-school girl friend how to use remailers for anonymity to communicate with others in a manner that will not leave them vulnerable to tracking/stalking by strangers. Law Enforcement Agencies fully recognize the need for anonymous communications, setting up hotlines that they advertise as being free from call-tracing, etc. Is this capacity to be denied to private citizens and groups who wish to communicate with those who need their help? If someone wants to spam me, or threaten me, or whatever, through the use of anonymous remailers, fine--I have a delete key and I have mail filters. If someone else is too fucking lazy or unconcerned with using the available technology and tools to do the same, then where the fuck do they find the time and energy to call for myself and others to be held prisoner behind an ElectroMagnetic Curtain in order to "protect" them from "real life?" Every time some Nazi piece of shit announces his or her intention to "protect" somebody, my freedom, privacy and human rights seem to get thrown in the trash. My lawyer in Austin, Larry Joe, once told me about a client who phoned him from prison and said, "I have a TV and radio, I get three meals a day and cigarettes, and there's even a weight room here. It's not really like being in prison." Larry Joe asked him, "Do you have a key for the door?" The youth replied, "No." Larry Joe told him, "Trust me...you're in prison." I'm growing tired of those who want to lock all of the doors on the InterNet and control the keys so that the citizens will be imprisoned behind an ElectroMagnetic Curtain where they are only allowed to travel at the discretion of a higher authority. The only people who suffer from being imprisoned behind walls of censorship and fascism are the poor and the powerless. The Nazi rocket scientists, the Spamfords and the adult web site operators will always emerge from the wars with a seat at a Congressional fundraiser, it is the average citizen who always is on the inside (of the Prison, Wall, or ElectroMagnetic Curtain) looking out. My advice to well-meaning fascist censors is to stay the fuck out of the InterNet regulation business, because there are too many people on the InterNet who have experienced its freedom and who will no go easily into the dark night. I was in Poland shortly after the fall of The Wall, and was talking to a lady who was describing how hard life had become in the resulting "chaos of the new." I asked her if she thought that the citizens would return to the former political system if conditions got bad enough. She said, "Over my dead body." Someone wants to shut down your remailer? Fine. I'll start one up. They want to shut down my remailer? Fine, but what about the Eternity Servers? Don't know about the Eternity Servers? They are waiting to route around the damage caused by shutting down remailers, and there is another technology waiting to replace the Eternity Servers if they get shut down. I, for one, am not going to stand by listlessly while fascists attempt to build an ElectroMagnetic Curtain around me. I have a byte, and I'm not afraid to use it. Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <33FA7114.5ED1@sk.sympatico.ca>, on 08/19/97 at 10:22 PM, Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca> said:
Law Enforcement Agencies fully recognize the need for anonymous communications, setting up hotlines that they advertise as being free from call-tracing, etc. Is this capacity to be denied to private citizens and groups who wish to communicate with those who need their help?
I hope you really don't think that any call made to an LEA is "anonymous". If in doubt try calling one of these "anonymous" lines and make several crank calls and see how long before they are kicking in your door. The LEA's do not beleive in anonymity only in having the sheeple beleive in the false apperance of anonymity. Very simmilar how Clipper, GAK, and weak crypto give the sheeple a false sence of security. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM/pvrY9Co1n+aLhhAQGd1wQAn8nFin5lqRGdVmqqTxsEfIgXSV70UMJ0 psYVrYsMtfn9aNbCTyEUZgcyS+AdLoISjIGckM/+FUZjKDQT50gyJc5rH9j4cAQk wS8Rc6vgJjbCO9aQT1HMqiG0NIX4EEoHZ5tMO+miC5n3KYLPjIidaduRPHMqIguB ROj2Ou60otk= =4jcR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 8:44 PM -0700 8/18/97, Robert A. Costner wrote:
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I'd appreciate some EMAIL comments on what anonymous remailers are used for, in particular the remailer at anon.efga.org.
The "Georgia Cracker" remailer, like any remailer, has had several people complain about it's existence. While I've received various emails telling me the remailer is a bad thing, including veiled legal threats, I've yet to see even one note that tells why it is a good thing. I'd appreciate some comments on why the system should be maintained.
You made a lot of hay about setting it up, if I recall correctly. If you didn't know what remailers are, and what they protect, why did you set it up? More to the point, do you think anybody is now going to "break anonymity" to tell you that anon.efga.org allowed them to notify the authorities that their father was raping their baby sister? Or that it allowed Hamas supporters to funnel technical information to drive the ZOG government out of Jerusalem? Or whatever. And if someone used a remailer to send you accounts of what anon.efga.org was used for, would you trust these accounts? Get a clue, man.
There are two main reasons for this. First, I need to explain to others at EFGA why this remailer is being maintained. Secondly, I need to write an affidavit explaining why the remailer should not be shut down. I'd really appreciate anyone who has used anon.efga.org EMAILing me with what purpose it serves. Anonymous comments are of course very welcome.
An affidavit sounds like a legal statement. If you "need to write an affidavit explaining why the remailer should not be shut down, " just who is threatening to shut it down? Tell them the anon.efga.org remailer is an important conduit for protecting the secure communications of the Grand Wizards of the Ku Klux Klan, a Georgia organization. If they balk, ask if the Klan does not have a right of free speech and security in their papers and homes. If they don't understand this, shoot them as enemies of the people. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
Is there any Eudora plug-in that allows anyone using Eudora to operate a remailer? I would think that if anyone with Eudora and an email account can chain remail PGP encrypted messages for others a la mixmaster, etc. it would be much harder to shut down 40,000 remailers tham 40. Jonathan Wienke What part of "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" is too hard to understand? (From 2nd Amendment, U.S. Constitution) PGP 2.6.2 RSA Key Fingerprint: 7484 2FB7 7588 ACD1 3A8F 778A 7407 2928 DSS/D-H Key Fingerprint: 3312 6597 8258 9A9E D9FA 4878 C245 D245 EAA7 0DCC Public keys available at pgpkeys.mit.edu. PGP encrypted e-mail preferred. US/Canadian Windows 95/NT or Mac users: Get Eudora Light + PGP 5.0 for free at http://www.eudora.com/eudoralight/ Get PGP 5.0 for free at http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pgp-form.html Commercial version of PGP 5.0 and related products at http://www.pgp.com Eudora + PGP = Free, Convenient Communication Privacy Go postal! Write your mommy a letter!
Is there any Eudora plug-in that allows anyone using Eudora to operate a remailer? I would think that if anyone with Eudora and an email account can chain remail PGP encrypted messages for others a la mixmaster, etc. it would be much harder to shut down 40,000 remailers tham 40.
Jonathan Wienke
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Greg Broiles -
Jonathan Wienke -
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Toto -
William H. Geiger III