Igor Chudov contributed a quote from some government manual:
These anti-government extremists and supporters are convinced citizens are being systematically oppressed by an illegal, totalitarian government. They believe the time for traditional political reform has passed, that their freedom will only be secured by resistance to the law and attacks against the government in several forms.
Members of these groups bond to one another and lose contact with other people who hold different opinions. The isolation works to reinforce their views, which in turn gives them new purpose. This new purpose may take ordinary ideas to extremes, rationalize their problems into blaming government, and cause members to compete with each other to make stronger statements.
Couldn't've said it better myself. I see the same pattern in cypherpunks and in my non- (or barely-) 'Netted extremist friends of the right, the libertarian, and the left varieties. I've argued with myself for years about whether the spread of the Net would connect these people back to their fellow humans, by offering uncensorable, violence-free communication channels, or whether it help them to make virtual communities consisting solely of people who reinforce their own beliefs. I'm still hoping for the former... Z, hopeful cynic
Zooko Journeyman wrote:
I've argued with myself for years about whether the spread of the Net would connect these people back to their fellow humans, by offering uncensorable, violence-free communication channels, or whether it help them to make virtual communities consisting solely of people who reinforce their own beliefs.
I'm still hoping for the former...
um, i don't understand why you think these are mutually exclusive. it pretty obvious that people with similar interests will get together and form virtual communities based on common values rather than physical proximity when they have access to a communication infrastructure like the net. accidental and arbitrary interactions is the darker side of brick-wall reality, the internet is the tech to transcend it. when people have the tech they use it. best, vipul -- Powell lingered. "How's Earth?" It was a conventional enough question and Muller gave the conventional answer, "Still spinning." -- "Reason", Asimov. ================================================================== Vipul Ved Prakash | - Electronic Security & Crypto vipul@best.com | - Web Objects 91 11 2233328 | - PERL Development 198 Madhuban IP Extension | - Linux & Open Systems Delhi, INDIA 110 092 | - Networked Virtual Spaces
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