Peter F Cassidy wrote:

wired has balls. the economist has to figure out what all this stuff means in the real world. wired just sells ads around the events it covers. lewis is innocent compared to wanton scum like kelly.

Maybe I'm biased, but I have a lot of respect for Kevin Kelly. I met him at the first "Artificial Life" conference, at Los Alamos, 1987, and he drove down here to Santa Cruz to interview me for several hours for his not-yet-published "Wired." (As it turned out, Steven Levy also interviewed some of us and Kelly chose to run Levy's article in the #2 isuusue of "Wired," instead of his own, and submitted his own article to "Whole Earth Review," where it ran in the Summer 1993 issue. I've found Kelly to be somewhat quiet, and deep, and not all flamboyant and grubbing after soundbite quotes. His book "Out of Control," 1994, is the beast summary I've seen of the swirl of concepts we are generally interested in. So, what's your problem with Kelly? If it's the profit motive of "Wired," we disagree, as I think profits are great. If it's the ad-laden pages of "Wired," well, that's life in the high-tech age of cheap color printing, zillions of Macintoshes, and a culture that loves high-tech glitz. I think Kelly is a person of high integrity. It's hard to demand much more than this. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Cypherpunks list: majordomo@toad.com with body message of only: subscribe cypherpunks. FAQ available at ftp.netcom.com in pub/tc/tcmay