Bombs Away, from The Netly News Network
********* http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/1,1042,902,00.html The Netly News Network May 1, 1997 Bombs Away by Declan McCullagh (declan@well.com) Internet fear-mongering is back in vogue inside the White House. The Clinton administration escalated its assault on the Net this week, warning that it provides bomb-making recipes to anyone "with a modem" and proposing a new law to restrict such information. In a 53-page report released on Tuesday, the Department of Justice alleges that criminals are trawling cyberspace for how-to kits on making explosives. "ATF statistics reflect that, between 1985 and June 1996, the investigations of at least 30 bombings and four attempted bombings resulted in the recovery of bomb-making literature that the suspects had obtained from the Internet," the report says. "A member of the DoJ committee accessed a single web site on the World Wide Web and obtained the titles of 110 different bomb-making texts." [...] ------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/
Declan McCullagh writes:
"A member of the DoJ committee accessed a single web site on the World Wide Web and obtained the titles of 110 different bomb-making texts."
I wonder if this was a bookstore. I did a search for "explosives" on amazon.com and came up with at least that many titles. Only a handful were of the Anarchist's Cookbook ilk. Most were academic or industrial studies; a few were from US Govt or Govt-affiliated organizations. -- Jeff
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Declan McCullagh writes:
"A member of the DoJ committee accessed a single web site on the World Wide Web and obtained the titles of 110 different bomb-making texts."
I wonder if this was a bookstore. I did a search for "explosives" on amazon.com and came up with at least that many titles. Only a handful were of the Anarchist's Cookbook ilk. Most were academic or industrial studies; a few were from US Govt or Govt-affiliated organizations.
Well the whole thing is just more smoke and mirrors. The bomb used in Oklahoma required the knowledge of CHEM 101. I have several Eng. Books that go into great detail on making Nitrogen/Deasel bombs as they are routinely used in Mining operations. They are safe to store as a convenient binary explosive, easy to store, and easy to prepare as needed "on site" not to mention they are relativly cheap to use. :) I would imagine that you will have to pass a FBI/CIA/NSA security clearance before you can enroll in collage in the near future. :( - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii@amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: OS/2, Windows/0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Registered User E-Secure v1.1 ES000000 iQCVAwUBM2khbo9Co1n+aLhhAQER6QP9FQDorcq6Y0GAgjMVi94mxJYhIP1urQt3 iBCxGLEpxOBv/TKClCc0xVy37k0VUTjyTzU4Ep8yOSBqmjbW0YMLRzCwn125G3Qe KXgREZUi7IFH9yZzZ4f5oqiRVaxJk3nMikYSylrq9F5w74+OE7BkTk5neKkP7Bql USNDq64ubXY= =TzR2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 11:54 AM 5/1/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
The Clinton administration escalated its assault on the Net this week, warning that it provides bomb-making recipes to anyone "with a modem" and proposing a new law to restrict such information.* ... "A member of the DoJ committee accessed a single web site on the World Wide Web and obtained the titles of 110 different bomb-making texts."
OH, NO*!!! THERE ARE BOOKSTORES ON THE NET!!!! WITH BANNED BOOKS IN THEM!!!! OH, NO!!!! [*Please excuse the shouting, I'm quoting FBI officials here :-] The obvious bookstores to look at, if you want to freak the mundanes, are http://www.loompanics.com/ and http://www.paladin-press.com/ Yer basic Whole Extremist Catalogs. Of course, if you _really_ want to find books on explosives, you'll need to wait until the Library of CONgress is on line, or the U.S.Army Field Manuals. If you can't find explosives on the net, AltaVista's not doing its job. My favorite net explosives site is the Hagley Museum in Wilmington Delaware, about 105 miles from Declan's location in the Heart of Darkness. It's the old duPont Gunpowder Mills, and was a popular field trip for elementary school students when I was growing up. We'd learn how to make gunpowder, and learn about workplace safety and colonial industry, and watch the ducks and geese on the Brandywine River (Is it still legal to mention the name of a river named after Alcoholic Beverages on the net? They also farmed tobacco near there!) Pictures of Munitions Preparation Equipment are on the Dangerous Internet at http://www.hagley.lib.de.us/wheel.gif [*During a previous call for censorship of bombs and bad language on the net, I received email from a number of Senators, including Feinstein, containing obscenity and terrorism instructions. Don't remember if Biden replied. Email autoresponders can be fun.] # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)
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