US vs Overseas Banks
At 07:05 PM 7/30/95 -0400, Lucky Green wrote:
Six years ago, you could walk into a Bank, show them your driver license, and open an account. Today, you need several pieces of ID. Three years ago, you could withdraw money from your own account without having your checkbook on you. Today, they make you pay for a "counter check". One year ago, you could walk into a bank an cash a check drawn onto an account at the very same bank. Today (Coast Federal), they make you pay a $10 check cashing fee.
This depends on location. The Feds require that banks use the same ID to open an account that they would require to cash a check. The banks on the Left and Right Coasts are fairly restrictive (more restrictive than they have to be). Banks in the Heartland (particularly the Intermountain West) are much easier. With a little work, it is still possible to open accounts with "soft" ID in the more relaxed regions. Since these banks are accessible by ATM and Fedex and will soon be on the net (in some cases), they can be convenient to use. Likewise Canadian banks (which routinely offer US$ accounts). In the soft ID category, I place Employment ID and Student ID which you are free to make yourselves as well as the new secured credit cards; some of which can be obtained in spite of one's lack of existence. The latter make very good ID.
The US banking industry has gone to the dogs. The day a non-US bank offers an account that can be accessed over the net will be the day I close my US accounts.
This will be the most interesting story of the next few years. I will be anxious to see if the new ease of "switching" money reverses the trend toward decreased financial privacy caused by the war on money laundering. DCF "If Work, Jobs, Income, and the Middle Class Dream are all over, how come more Americans and a higher proportion of Americans are now in paid employment than ever before in our history."
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On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
It's interesting to note that where I am (Mankato, Minnesota) I was able to open a checking account with NO ID what so ever. I just wrote down a name and address (which is a P.O. box, BTW) and the next wee I had a box of checks (free) and a ATM card (also free).
Of course, this bank has been criticized for being somewhat lax on who they give accounts to, but the point still stands. I could have been anybody, and give any false address. *shrug*
Why should they give a damn who you are? IMO, it's none of their business. Hell, they're making $$$ on *your* deposits, it's time they stopped being such shits about it. -- Ed Carp, N7EKG Ed.Carp@linux.org, ecarp@netcom.com 801/534-8857 voicemail 801/460-1883 digital pager Finger ecarp@netcom.com for PGP 2.5 public key an88744@anon.penet.fi Q. What's the trouble with writing an MS-DOS program to emulate Clinton? A. Figuring out what to do with the other 639K of memory.
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