State Charges in Weaver Case
Here's an odd Ruby Ridge development, which just floated across Reuters. Idaho prosecutors have filed two sets of state charges against persons involved in the incident. Kevin Harris was charged with First Degree Murder for "killing Deputy U.S. Marshall William Degan willfully and with malice aforethought." FBI Sniper Lon Horiuchi was charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Vicki Weaver. Shouldn't it be First Degree Murder for deliberately killing someones wife with a baby in her arms, and involuntary manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed attacker? Seems a bit backwards to me. I suppose it has something to do with that "only following orders" thing. :) -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch@zipcon.com $ via Finger $ {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}
Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net> writes:
Shouldn't it be ... involuntary manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed attacker?
No, it should be a $100 reward for icing a motherfucking fed. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Duvos wrote:
I suppose it has something to do with that "only following orders" thing. :)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <19970822005931.27111.qmail@zipcon.net>, on 08/21/97 at 05:59 PM, Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net> said:
Here's an odd Ruby Ridge development, which just floated across Reuters.
Idaho prosecutors have filed two sets of state charges against persons involved in the incident.
Kevin Harris was charged with First Degree Murder for "killing Deputy U.S. Marshall William Degan willfully and with malice aforethought."
FBI Sniper Lon Horiuchi was charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Vicki Weaver.
Shouldn't it be First Degree Murder for deliberately killing someones wife with a baby in her arms, and involuntary manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed attacker?
Seems a bit backwards to me.
I suppose it has something to do with that "only following orders" thing. :)
He should be up on 1st Degree Murder charges as these were a planned, permeditated murders. Freeh, Reno, and Clinton should all be up on the same caharges as co-consiritors for planning and ordering the murders and for covering up the matter after the fact. Of cource all 3 should be introduced to "'ol Sparky" for their part in the murders at Waco. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM/0w349Co1n+aLhhAQHhgAP/YoyZAMWVGGXUKpJLZPENf0dVYYxTQBWb GbZ6pOdI1Jdh4lA95IoZ4mA1iPIKLZ4cq0FjEDtThy6cXdJUXRWgRFpV54NrwqsO +VbIZQRhcgoUsYXsUIO5lHzAfsarp4RsVHNEmf3D+IWKAt24xyfTgAnSL+pq58EL Kb+Te+I60rc= =6/NF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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