The New York Times, May 7, 1997, p. D5. I.B.M. Researchers Develop A New Encryption Formula By Laurence Zuckerman I.B.M. plans to announce today that two of its researchers have come up with a new computer encryption formula that they say is nearly impossible to crack. The International Business Machines Corporation said that the breakthrough was still a long way from being employed outside the lab and that it did nothing to resolve the running dispute between the computer industry and the Federal Government over whether law enforcement agencies should be given access to encrypted communications. But it could ultimately help reduce the vulnerability of so-called public-key encryption, which is the favored security method used to safeguard commerce and privacy on the Internet. "They've made a big advance," said Joan Feigenbaum, a researcher at AT&T Labs in Murray Hill, N.J., who is familiar with the work of the two computer scientists who developed the system, Miklos Ajtai and Cynthia Dwork of I.B.M.'s Almaden Research Center in San Jose, Calif. "Scientifically, this is a big step in the right direction." But Bruce Schneier, a computer security consultant in Minneapolis and author of a standard textbook on cryptography, dismissed the news. "Theoretically it is important, but as a security breakthrough there is nothing new," he said. In public-key encryption, the sender of an electronic communication uses software that automatically scrambles the information by incorporating a publicly known numerical key. Decoding the scrambled transmission requires a private key, a number supposedly known only by the recipient. The security of the system depends, among other things, on how difficult it is for an electronic eavesdropper to crack the code using a powerful computer. If some of the codes that are generated by the system are difficult to break but others are easy, the system is inherently weak. I.B.M. said that its new system was the first to generate hundreds of codes at random, each of which is as difficult to crack as the hardest instance of the underlying mathematical problem. The system is based on a problem that has defied solution by mathematicians for 150 years, I.B.M. said. Mr. Schneier said that the cryptographic formulas now in use were already robust enough. The biggest challenge, he said, is creating security systems in the real world that are not vulnerable to hackers. "Cryptography is a lot more than math" he said. [End]
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:
The New York Times, May 7, 1997, p. D5.
I.B.M. Researchers Develop A New Encryption Formula ... The system is based on a problem that has defied solution by mathematicians for 150 years, I.B.M. said.
I had an interesting conversation a few weeks ago with a friend who has a closed-form solution to a well-known problem that's been unsolved for about that long. He has no intention of publishing it, but he has already made quite a bit of $$$ on it. :-) I've known the guy for a number of years and it's not the first time he gets a good result and makes money on it instead of yet another paper in a refereed journal. In general, lots more is known to some people than is published. E.g. it's possible that some of stuff I did for my Ph.D. thesis was done by the British crypto people but never made it to the open literatre.
Mr. Schneier said that the cryptographic formulas now in use were already robust enough. The biggest challenge, he said, is creating security systems in the real world that are not vulnerable to hackers.
"Cryptography is a lot more than math" he said.
Let me get this straight - Schneier claims that factoring is secure now and will remain secure in the future? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:
The New York Times, May 7, 1997, p. D5. I.B.M. Researchers Develop A New Encryption Formula The system is based on a problem that has defied solution by mathematicians for 150 years, I.B.M. said.
I had an interesting conversation a few weeks ago with a friend who has a closed-form solution to a well-known problem that's been unsolved for about that long. He has no intention of publishing it, but he has already made quite a bit of $$$ on it. :-)
I've known the guy for a number of years and it's not the first time he gets a good result and makes money on it instead of yet another paper in a refereed journal. In general, lots more is known to some people than is published. E.g. it's possible that some of stuff I did for my Ph.D. thesis was done by the British crypto people but never made it to the open literatre.
Mr. Schneier said that the cryptographic formulas now in use were already robust enough. The biggest challenge, he said, is creating security systems in the real world that are not vulnerable to hackers.
"Cryptography is a lot more than math" he said.
Let me get this straight - Schneier claims that factoring is secure now and will remain secure in the future?
Let me get this straight -- did your friend discover a closed form solution to the factoring problem? - Igor.
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:
The New York Times, May 7, 1997, p. D5. I.B.M. Researchers Develop A New Encryption Formula The system is based on a problem that has defied solution by mathematicians for 150 years, I.B.M. said.
I had an interesting conversation a few weeks ago with a friend who has a closed-form solution to a well-known problem that's been unsolved for about that long. He has no intention of publishing it, but he has already made quite a bit of $$$ on it. :-)
I've known the guy for a number of years and it's not the first time he get a good result and makes money on it instead of yet another paper in a refereed journal. In general, lots more is known to some people than is published. E.g. it's possible that some of stuff I did for my Ph.D. thesis was done by the British crypto people but never made it to the open literat
Mr. Schneier said that the cryptographic formulas now in use were already robust enough. The biggest challenge, he said, is creating security systems in the real world that are not vulnerable to hackers.
"Cryptography is a lot more than math" he said.
Let me get this straight - Schneier claims that factoring is secure now and will remain secure in the future?
Let me get this straight -- did your friend discover a closed form solution to the factoring problem?
Nope, the guy I had in mind solved something else which to me was about as interesting. But yes, I also heard via a grapevine that "a friend of a friend" claims to have found a trick for factoring a product of 2 arbitrarily large primes (hundreds of decimal digits) very quickly ("minutes on a PC"). I don't believe in reputations in general, but his is such that this may be true. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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