Re: What it's like to get a subpoena (re Toto) (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:25:01 -0400 From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> Subject: Re: What it's like to get a subpoena (re Toto) (fwd)
It's tough being the earliest ones contacted, having to decide as Tom and Jim have had to do about whether to go public or deal with the inquiries in private and hope that nothing worse develops.
That's what worries me, once the snowball gets rolling... I mean jeesh, I run a program that handles email. This sort of stuff is exactly why I don't like interacting with people via private email unless I know them personaly (ie via non-electronic means). The software is publicly available and certainly doesn't need me to explain it. While I can see some interest in wanting to know what CJ/Toto/aka said to me that night on the phone and the next day at the physical meet, it makes me wonder exactly what am I *supposed* to know about...
It's that switch from friendly and couterous to the other that none of want to think about, eh? "You're under arrest. Anything you say can and will be used against you." Hmm, what was I saying, posting, here.
Ahmen. Though a more insidous threat is the 'network' that gets built out of it. I wonder if this means every time some bozo I happen to run across goes postal I'm going to be 'investigated'? I wonder how long a name stays on those (probably) non-existant lists?
Makes a more convincing case to have a live body telling the facts of the matter, explaining how things work, somewhat eager to instruct and please, in self-preservation, to keep the cops and court friendly and courteous. What was told to the investigators in private, that's what hung Jim Bell and CJ.
That was the ultimate reason that I went ahead and posted it. That way somebody *besides* me knew about it.
Then the friendly folks came for you and me, working a list.
Which is the reason I'm talking to a lawyer to find out specificaly what is going on. I mean in my own self interest and the continued existance of TAG:SSZ it seems to be the thing to do. As far as I know I won't have access to council once I'm in there. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Was watching "One Tough Cop" last weekend starring the younger and less successful brothers of a couple of male leads. An NYC police drama filmed in Toronto. The otherwise "B" movie was enlivened by a somewhat less than sympathetic treatment of the two FBI agents who were leaning on "One Tough Cop." They wanted him to plant a bug on his childhood friend who was a member of a Sicilian social organization. The movie also featured two crack heads who raped and murdered a nun. The FBI agents got worse screen treatment than the crack heads. Our hero's chats with the Fibbies were always laced with strings of obscenities meant to convey to them that he did not intend to help them. The film showed that he did not suffer professional reversals because of his treatment of Fibbies. DCF
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Duncan Frissell
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Jim Choate