Re: Another potential flaw in current economic theory... (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:51:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Jim Burnes <jvb@ssds.com> Subject: Re: Another potential flaw in current economic theory...
It occurs to me that there is another potential flaw in current economic theory and business practice.
Currently (ala Friedmann) the parties that reap the benefit of a succesful business are the shareholders, this is currently seen to exclude the employees in many cases/companies.
Actually not. There are quite a few business that have employees as shareholders. Most shares of companies are reasonably priced and easy enough to get a hold of. Selling them on the other hand is not so straightforward.
This doesn't effect the premise under standard economics that the responsibility of managers is to the shareholders *exclusively* in regards profits and business operations. What I am positing is the potential effects of including employees as part of that sphere of responsibility *without* explicit stock holding by the emplyees. You're trying to turn apples into oranges. [other stuff deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Jim Choate wrote:
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:51:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Jim Burnes <jvb@ssds.com> Subject: Re: Another potential flaw in current economic theory...
It occurs to me that there is another potential flaw in current economic theory and business practice.
Currently (ala Friedmann) the parties that reap the benefit of a succesful business are the shareholders, this is currently seen to exclude the employees in many cases/companies.
Actually not. There are quite a few business that have employees as shareholders. Most shares of companies are reasonably priced and easy enough to get a hold of. Selling them on the other hand is not so straightforward.
This doesn't effect the premise under standard economics that the responsibility of managers is to the shareholders *exclusively* in regards profits and business operations.
Hmmm. You imply that the employees and employers interests are not the same. The whole idea is to make a profit. Out of those profits the employees are payed the salaries they use to keep their families in beer and bedclothes. What other sort of interest do you suggest the company should have? They already get significant benefits in insurance etc. Many employees already have the option to buy shares. Certainly this is the case in publically traded companies -- many publically traded companies offer these same shares at a discount to employees. Any other sort of interest would simply induce a market distortion in the cost of investment capital. The market detects socialism as damage and routes around it. The entire market would never do this voluntarily, so by definition any distortion would have to be induced in a centrally managed economy. By definition socialism. But look at the bright side. We already have people who think they can centrally manage the economy. They've certainly made inroads. jim
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