I don't care very much about Carol Anne whoever. I don't care very much about her plight. I have received just enough information about her plight (via this list, oddly enough), to know that I don't have enough information to tell who I agree with in this dispute. I don't particularly want to get enough information to do that, because I don't care. If I did care, I would get the information through some other method then this list, because it seems completely inappropriate. The merits of netcom vs. smaller services seem irrelevant to this list, too, in my mind, and I don't care to see those either. If you were wondering. I also don't care to see 10 or 20 posts a day by Carol Anne Whoever which are resposes to random crypto-related posts wherein the whole post is quoted, and then Carol Anne adds "me too!", or "Does that remind you of a certain sysadmin? giggle, giggle.", or "Good point!" I am at a loss as to why Carol Anne thinks the details of her life, and her inane "me too"s are of interest to the cypherpunks list. I guess we can't stop Carol Anne from sending this stuff to the list anyways (but I can killfile her), but it would be nice if people would stop responding to her stuff. Obviously if you really feel it's an appropriate use of the list to do so anyway, I can't stop you. I'm just asking you to for purely selfish reasons, so I don't feel the need to killfile people who make otherwise intelligent posts, and miss those posts. [I'm beginning to suspect that Carol Anne, and her sysadmin too, are just tentacles of Detweiler.]