At 3:25 PM 9/15/95, Peter Trei wrote:

Tim, I don't want to take your toy away, or minimize the acheivements

It's not "my toy" for anyone to take away. The burden of proof lies with those who want the name "Cypherpunks" changed, not those who are happy to let things go as they've been going. Look, you've written a couple of long pieces explaining why a more conservative name would be better, I've written some pieces on why it's not a very workable idea, and yet I doubt anyone on the list has changed their views. Or at least only a very tiny fraction. The point being that things gain inertia, just the way it is. History counts. Names stick. But if you and your follows wish to change things, go ahead and have a schism. That's what the Protestants did, once they realized the Catholic Church wouldn't be changing it's system anytime soon. --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."