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Subject: Re: e$: Snakes of Medusa on Wall Street? (fwd) To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:43:13 -0600 (CST) X-Mailing-List: cypherpunks@ssz.com X-Loop: ssz.com X-Language: English, Russian, German Sender: owner-cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com> X-Loop: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:10:17 -0500 From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com> Subject: Re: e$: Snakes of Medusa on Wall Street? (fwd)

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At 3:14 pm -0500 on 11/18/97, Jim Choate shows the benefits of being on

--- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:00:08 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: dweightman@pop.radix.net To: e$@thumper.vmeng.com, : From: Donald Weightman <dweightman@Radix.Net> Subject: Re: e$: Snakes of Medusa on Wall Street? (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 For Heaven's sake, guys, there were _two_ religious revivals by the name of the 'Great Awakening'. One in England, early 18thC., most prominent product: John Wesley & Methodism. The other in this country, at its height in the 1840's, with the Church of the Later Day saints as _its_ most prominent product. Don Weightman At 08:13 AM 11/19/97 -0500, you wrote: the

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Um, I believe that went from the late 1500's to the early 1700's at best.

Nope. Check it out. As defined in any decent book of American history, well, maybe one that hasn't been too "revised" :-), the "Great Awakening", which gave us most of our American-flavored religions, happened in the early part of the 19th century, though rumblings started shortly after the revolution.

I did a little web-search (still being at work and deprived of my library) but what I can find clearly indicates the 'Great Awakening' was fininished by the mid to late 1750's. Most of the sources that I found from Alta Vista give the beginning of the Great Awakening as the late 1600's to early 1700's.

While I clearly put the beginning of the movement too early (I always get this confused with the beacon on the hill jive) all the evidence that I can gather shows that it did *not* extend into any part of the 1800's. As I understood the movement it didn't survive the American War of Indipendance.

I used Alta Vista and search terms of 'great' & 'awakening'.

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