Hi all, I crossposted the first post to the usenet group to here but just to make sure you all get the message I have created alt.cypherpunks. Even if it is only a temporary measure it will be a forum from which we can establish something better. Fuck you John, we should have done this a long time ago. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul@crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul@cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"