PGP 5.0 beta is out at PGP.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only. PGPKeys.exe pukes its guts out when run. (At least on my machine.) It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist. The splash page looks interesting. Nice if the rest would run... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEUAwUBM337SeQCP3v30CeZAQHrIwf3bwkNKXwDPb5R2qLMneIIWBTfYvwAGCQ6 8xqd0BHSsD+7ZzF4u9iVZWV9sHN/62LxAo886FfDP7PtKG+JZrZCa+KOUj2Zw3qk 1wltug8/rylAoLHulXwFVfwWb001jMIsS5RYNqDLqyccVF2TWUbVKQEgH7EI9VJ3 EU8gZzHF61ok+bqacmV/r7ANoIdfFRvLZHm0iGo6Xm4xHz8lw2JzDWWvnhWnEquD mf3XUaNRVYnI4/+kgs8fx5golMY3pPQrl6PR0XdvvLJITUhiqM3SVTDs9IL4hWAx V7WWGPHaJZw6nVAl5LNbLK9puGFw0FMap1a6Ld+HnmRlxlgpr8B/ =gdHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano@teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan@ctrl-alt-del.com|
At 10:39 AM -0800 5/17/97, Alan Olsen wrote:
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The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only. PGPKeys.exe pukes its guts out when run. (At least on my machine.)
It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist. The splash page looks interesting. Nice if the rest would run...
More than that, did they decide to release the source code? Last I heard, the answer was "of course not!!!!" Why it is important that source code be released is left as an exercise. If it isn't released.... --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm very happy with the PGP 5.0 beta after less than an hour of testing. The new PGP 5.0 seems to work well. I'm finding a few bugs, and I had a configuration problem or two. But this is much better than using the DOS version from Windows. And much nicer than using Private Idaho. For crypto to have widespread acceptance, crypto must work seamlessly on common platforms such as Windows. While any Linux administrator can use PGP without much problem, the average Windows based knowledge worker has had problems with this. PGP seamlessly integrates with Eudora and provides features required for electronic commerce. I have used the keyserver lookup feature (from PGPkeys) and found it worked well. PGP options have been added both to the Eudora menu and the toolbar. While I was not able to download PGP on Friday or Monday (day), customer support worked with me, and the technical people installed server updates to the US verification process on Friday and Monday afternoon, allowing me to finally download the 5MB file tonight. PGP 5.0 takes advantage of the 32-bit APIs and uses the Win95 interface. My existing 2.6 keyring was imported with no problem, and I have been able to use PGP 2.6 to verify signatures created with 5.0. Best I can tell, the new product is backwards compatible with older versions. I've also gotten email from a PGP person who has assured that source code will be available later. The new product, when combined with Eudora seamlessly integrates * Email * Spell checking * Digital Signatures * Certification Authority (CA) * Web of trust * Encryption * Availability from a commercial source This seamless integration is what is required to allow for successful implementation of Digital Signature initiatives most states have passed or are considering. Overall, I'm happy. I'd recommend that people obtain the beta and test it out. I don't know what it will be selling for, but I'm sure it will be worth the price. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM4EgnUGpGhRXg5NZAQFvugIAojhDAbHQfIhe48LYveKNmlSHez0MBn8+ dLrBMM3+tTCdKJrRZRQKvY+Qux4YFc5tJnn+EZFf5tSsGV/7jGqsVQ== =Gi0T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/
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Well, now that I've seen some good and bad reviews regarding the beta version, I'm still curious to hear from someone who uses PGPMail ver. 4.5 with Eudora Pro. From what I've read, it seems the new beta version has nothing new to add - except some quirky bugs and the source code that's supposed to be available at some time in the future.
Has anyone compared the above?
I've been using 4.5 since it was in Beta and I paid the $29.95 to upgrade to it when they started charging (they have you cut and paste your public key into the form to prove you are upgrading from a free version of PGP). I downloaded 5.0 a day or two ago and have been using it. It is possible to use both on the same machine although you have to watch your key location. I Use Windows 95. Installation of PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 went OK. Unless you have the latest Beta of Eudora (3.0.2 B4) it installs the files necessary to upgrade your version of Eudora. Unfortunately, 3.0.2 B4 expires in June so you'll have to continue upgrading. My only problem was that when I had the program move and rename my key rings, I forgot which key file I was pointing to and made my secret ring my public ring for a few minutes until I reinstalled. The program puts its menu into the "tray". Its menu is shorter than the PGP Mail 4.5 menu because the key handling is done from the PGPkeys program. It displays a graphic key list and you can point and click and drag and drop to perform most key management tasks. The new features are 1) automatic lookup of keys from the keyserver of your choice (defaults to PGP Incs keyserver). 2) automatic signing (or even encryption) of outgoing mail. You click <Queue> in Eudora and it prompts you for your passphrase. 3) Use of ElGamal (DSS/Diffie-Hellman) instead of RSA for your key if you like. 4) Use of PGP/Mime for outgoing messages if you like. 5) it will cache you private key in memory for a user configurable length of time (default is 120 seconds) so that you can easily encrypt multiple messages. It has worked fine so far. Digital signing and encryption seem faster than with 4.5. DCF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM4GEWIVO4r4sgSPhAQF9lAQA1F/3d8PFRRN1LPpp+xcRPZ9izAZIN6Nc 3Mpj4dqLncqxRcqzahAGQXjrxGZZ7GtW4rquAAWR5QncxPMp2DDXeDSkiIbbnB3e +qdbhs3SrENkLK9f195KpSBhMhXFeVJQ3A4oOM3VqHEXyi2DXKxaj805tRV11xW/ n+NOO6v8JNo= =2Dxy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 11:39 AM 5/17/97 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote:
The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only. PGPKeys.exe pukes its guts out when run. (At least on my machine.)
It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist. The splash page looks interesting. Nice if the rest would run...
It works fine on two of my (WIN95) machines (including one aging 486) that have pretty flaky general installations. No problems. It automatically signs if you want and is supposed to query keyservers automatically if you want but I haven't got that to work. Pretty display of the keys in your public file. DCF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM4DgZ4VO4r4sgSPhAQF/uwQAqp0+ffCTSLFK6ajmCzh5Rg0IiS/L8/Cv daUwBJ8/jlQ2Gq72qnHvuEQWrtOhUVUJDmSya2QO6f2C5IA+HEk3P7eiTQNbLXq7 89Mo118uMoG3kCsqMu05fb6KS4vdTGKeOTqmGthtxUqhfBuDGcYPsTw1yg4prs8+ tSaWp9eqbJs= =mZs4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, now that I've seen some good and bad reviews regarding the beta version, I'm still curious to hear from someone who uses PGPMail ver. 4.5 with Eudora Pro. From what I've read, it seems the new beta version has nothing new to add - except some quirky bugs and the source code that's supposed to be available at some time in the future. Has anyone compared the above? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBM4EmeT5A4+Z4Wnt9AQGMQwQAn48j+/KJVNlFKkWMZx0VLyfuob10jQL4 b1rx+tO7icLKcuYjU8WwHQlAJooeqXq0bjAtQ88+6DMbqfJpds7I68Wv1xpFwI8f qkV4wWGttHzJ4S2BucLvlWyp33kTmOdVzFlctLPk9PAV++sXc3sQ7fXrhiuUn3wJ +MpLYbhRaFA= =ogVd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ********************************************************* Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison@mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." ************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice.
participants (5)
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Alan Olsen
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frissell@panix.com
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Lynne L. Harrison
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Robert A. Costner
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Tim May