Re: IBM Key Recovery Propaganda on United Airlines

To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a hole in it. No thanks. Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them;
the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not big enough for you to worry about!
Toto
Eric //My life-time-emailadress is Eric.Verheul@pobox.com //Use this when emails start bouncing when I have //switched to my next (inadequate) Internet-provider

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To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a hole in it. No thanks.
Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them; the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not big enough for you to worry about!
You are joking right?? Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any GAK software reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting WebExplorer & Java Enhanced!!! Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice Look for MR/2 Tips & Rexx Scripts Get Work Place Shell for Windows!! PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii@amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: If Windows sucked it would be good for something. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtTCGY9Co1n+aLhhAQGCGQP/cVZeW8WlkbeS/G7Xm/LeqRgyDmQxhGRZ vgcB0aBuAekpkMHrzm7JxfIqxykKZhpAulD478MHet0w1rC1+m50ac7dQ9CwmE/x brhNZV9ziBJkBSPOx4dZYnMTh9AqEZp2TOQ/vm6MVWFEFyVq8Y9f+9oAnfs+2iJF R4HBGDmUQ6g= =jMcQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:
Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any G reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.
That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list... --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:
Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any G reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.
That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list...
Wait a second, isn't that what you were just calling for in my case? To wit: "I suggest zero tolerance of Black Unicorn unless and until someone reveals his real name." For the guy who has been screaming his head off about censorship to the point of nausea you were sure quick to turn your coat in my case. That more than anything else you have ever said puts the cap on your credibility as far as I'm concerned. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> writes:
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:
Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run a reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.
That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list...
Wait a second, isn't that what you were just calling for in my case?
To wit: "I suggest zero tolerance of Black Unicorn unless and until someone reveals his real name."
Not quite. No censorship is better than consistent censorship is which is better than arbitrary censorship. *IF* this list is to be moderated, then Unicorn and Plucky Green have to banned from it - unless their real names are revealed.
For the guy who has been screaming his head off about censorship to the point of nausea you were sure quick to turn your coat in my case. That more than anything else you have ever said puts the cap on your credibility as far as I'm concerned.
OK, let's guess one letter at a time. Does your last name start with 'M'? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
*IF* this list is to be moderated, then Unicorn and Plucky Green have to banned from it - unless their real names are revealed.
OK, let's guess one letter at a time. Does your last name start with 'M'?
God, I love good cryptoanalysis. I ran my 'JewFinder' program on their posts and found out that Plucky Green's keystrokes have pork residue on them, while Black Unicorn's do not. 'HomoPhobeII' reported that both are wearing pants with sperm stains of other people on them, but Black Unicorn bought his pants at the Sally Ann Thrift Store, so it classifies him only as a 'possible' Not-Macho-Like-Me. 'ColorBooKKK' reported that 'Black' Unicorn's lack of Ebonics in his postings means he probably just a Nigger-Lover, and not actually eligible for a special education grant. It suggests that Plucky Green is either Irish, or needs to quit 'plucking' it, so that it won't turn green. A check of plaidworks.com reveals that both Black Unicorn and Plucky Green are both subscribed to all 1,000 of their sports lists, as of noon today. (However, since I found out that myself and all the CypherPunks were subscribed at the same time, this may not have much meaning). My own careful study of the printouts of their postings reveals that both printouts are in black ink. I will give this glaringly obvious similarity close scrutiny, and report back with my conclusions. Toto

Eric Verheul wrote:
To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a hole in it. No thanks.
Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them; the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not big enough for you to worry about!
Not worry? Really? What about those pesky little virii that are *much* smaller than the holes in the condoms?
participants (6)
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Black Unicorn
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Dale Thorn
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dlv@bwalk.dm.com
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Eric Verheul
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Toto
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William H. Geiger III