I believe the debate about the Leaky bill can essentially be summarized as: A. If the bill is interpreted in light of the Bill of Rights, et al, then we don't have anything to worry about, and it's a good bill. B. If it's not, then it's a bad bill. I would like to remind people that the US judicial system, while not as always mistaken as some believe, is not particularly noted for not making serious errors in this area. For instance, regarding the forfeiture scheme, quite a few competent lawyers have examined civil forfeiture - used for _any_ crime - and found it to be a violation of the Bill of Rights. Moreover, it is the contention of many lawyers - such as with the ACLU - that the whole ITAR scheme should have been thrown out long ago as unconstitutional. That it has not been so may be taken as an indication of how the _politically appointed_ judges on the Supreme Court, et al, are likely to make mistakes. I would also remind you of the ratings given by the American Bar Association to quite a few current judges on the Supreme Court, which may be taken as a reflection of their competency. -Allen