At 10:06 PM 2/4/96 -0800, Norman Hardy wrote:

The list of addressees is made from the "From" fields that include "netcom.com" in CP mail that appeared on the CP list Tuesday and Wednesday last week. I have received no CP mail since then. Have you?

I have only received one message. Since all of the header dates are from last Tuesday, it may not count. BTW - I received it sometime between Saturday morning and Sunday night. (I was out of town over the weekend.):

Return-Path: <owner-cypherpunks@toad.com> Received: from toad.com by mail2 (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA08759; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:10:42 -0800 Received: by toad.com id AA04747; Tue, 30 Jan 96 12:50:10 PST Received: from callandor.cybercash.com by toad.com id AA04741; Tue, 30 Jan 96 12:50:00 PST Received: by callandor.cybercash.com; id PAA02048; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:54:55 -0500 Received: from cybercash.com(204.254.34.52) by callandor.cybercash.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma002021; Tue, 30 Jan 96 15:54:28 -0500 Received: from [204.254.34.231] by cybercash.com.cybercash.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04051; Tue, 30 Jan 96 15:47:06 EST Message-Id: <v02120d0ead3421ea1cee@[204.254.34.231]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:51:24 -0400 To: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May) From: cme@cybercash.com (Carl Ellison) Subject: Re: Denning's misleading statements Cc: Cypherpunks@toad.com Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk

At 20:49 1/27/96, Timothy C. May wrote:

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I've never met Dorothy Denning, so I hesitate to characterize her as a villainess. But certainly she's the only noted cryptographer I know of who's gone so far out on a limb to defend a position the vast majority of computer scientists, civil libertarians, and cryptographers scoff at.

I've met some others -- most noteably Silvio Micali [but he has a financial interest in that position]. However, DERD is the only one I've met who is all the way over on Freeh's side.

- Carl

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