SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
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SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
January 21, 1998 Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken against wayward employees based on false statements they made when questioned about their misconduct.
Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale appeared to affect state and local government employees as well. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
"A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.
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Clarification on the Subject: line -- the court's ruling, at least as described below, applies only to government employees. It is the state-as-employer, not the state-as-sovereign, role the court is discussing. In other words, we're still free to lie, cheat, and steal[1]. -Declan [1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software Publishers Association. At 14:40 -0600 1/21/98, Jim Choate wrote:
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SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
January 21, 1998 Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken against wayward employees based on false statements they made when questioned about their misconduct.
Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale appeared to affect state and local government employees as well. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
"A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.
____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage@ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <v03007801b0ec7f42436a@[168.161.105.216]>, on 01/21/98 at 11:47 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> said:
[1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software Publishers Association.
Perhaps we could convince Sun to press for *criminal* charges against Bill Gates as part of thier current battle over Java. I think it would only be fitting to set the tables turned against these SOB's. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: Dos: Venerable. Windows: Vulnerable. OS/2: Viable. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNMbMgo9Co1n+aLhhAQHbQAQAuhbHqJhZSAUucxdwnKHu4s312Vd5+H0r p4rsCn36HoWdqaPReGsjcZUV7Y5VTKCLjBV2vkfAmkT40cZwgwhoAXwusVLjWIB5 b0xZYFndb0+CqasFCtZ/UqZiW6CkfwZpZAD3yox0qC6S2nLSCmwgopgojTS5F6is GXlMiVNy/14= =xzJJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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