From: IN%"ravage@einstein.ssz.com" "Jim Choate" 12-FEB-1997 18:43:56.23

From: "E. Allen Smith" <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.rutgers.edu>

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Umm... because you'll eventually accumulate _lots_ of addresses that don't work, which will slow things down tremendously in sending mail out?

The current subscription is between 1,000 and 2,000 I don't think that is _lots_. All we need to do is count the number of bounces per address in a given period, the SSZ end is trying to decide between weekly or monthly cleanings, and then clear that address. At no point would I need to archive the original bounce.

Someone with more experience correct me if I'm wrong (I'm just starting to learn about mailing list management), but isn't saving at least the first bounce from a given address good in order to check what address is the one that's actually bouncing? Admittedly, this only applies to badly-formed bounces. The rest can just have the address noted.

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Well, loki@cyberpass.net has made the offer to host the entire list... and Lance is certainly making money at it. While this would have some problems in comparison with the distributed list idea (namely more of a choke point), it would decidedly help.

I certainly hope they get a cpunks address made available. I will certainly subscribe cpunks@ssz so that the distributed remailer will benefit from that input. However, one of the major realizations is that as long as one anything is involved in the list it is capable of being shutdown at any time with no warning. It also makes it much easier to compromise. I would like to see servers in several countries myself.

Agreed.

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Is anyone interested in acting as a mail-to-news gateway?

Want to volunteer?

Give me some idea of how much programming knowledge, time, etcetera is required, please, before I can answer. I'd be renting space on some other computer (e.g., an account on cyberpass.net) to do it in; the only higher-level programming language (i.e., beyond Applesoft Basic) that I know anything of is Perl (and I don't know that all that well); and I am somewhat busy with other stuff. In other words, it depends. -Allen