Addressed to: Ben Holiday <ncognito@gate.net> Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com> ** Reply to note from Ben Holiday <ncognito@gate.net> 05/29/96 10:30pm -0400 as to the politiks --if we do not standup now, we will not even be able to speak up later. there is no question that every means of confronting a totalitarian driven government apparati must be developed, and the means of impletation well known. the only safety is in numbers; and, yes, some of the "brethern" will fall. anymore than the aging Chinese despots were able to contain the news of Tinnamin square, and I stood at the corner by the Forbidden City as it was starting to form, despots everywhere are faced with the same problem. in China, the free speach and democracy protestors faced enormous technological and communication deficiencies --so far, we do not. -- The result of today's 'government' is new world disorder, unfolding at warp velocity.