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The following is an UNCONFIRMED RUMOR. If you have any information to confirm or deny these statements, please post and cc: safety.security@cancomm.com. As always, please specify your sources as precisely as possible. Thanks, Wes Thomas
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:47:18 -0800 From: *** Public PC User -- Library Documents <user@***.edu> Subject: military weapons issud to police depts. To: colombo
I'm a former cop with 16 years of experience including intelligence, SWAT, tactical operations, criminal investigations.
Police depts. are receiving free of charge from the Defense logistics Agency all kinds of military pattern small arms. these include m-16's (full auto kind), ammo, and even bayonets. Also included is webb gear, ammo pouches, ponchos, night vision devices and passive infra-red and thermal imaging night sights or night vision devices.
Sources of mine in the State of WA., say that many PD's are now training in advanced small unit tactics involving MOUT scenarios at the Yakima Army Training Center. MOUT deals with street fighting in an urban warfare context.
In addition, automatic weapons instruction (small arms) is also given to these units at the training center and some units report Army instructors (mostly special forces types) are instructing them in long range snipe fire and concenalment mehtods, including reconnaisance and intelligence gathering in the field.
Now here's the kicker. The WA. State Criminal Justice Training Commision is allegedly (good source on this) considering expanding the police academy curriculum and training hours from the present 440 hrs. to twice that amount. Civil unrest and street fighting tactics are to be included in the new blocs of instruction. Additional emphasis on sniper and full auto weapons training and intelligence gathering missions, plus joint tactical doctrine in order to facilitate working with military units may also be included. I hear other states are to join in with the same agenda to be implemented.
Sources with WA. State Emergency Management Services report that the WA. State Patrol is now designated the LEAD co-ordinating agency for all WAs. State police operations in the event of an emergency and in co-ordinating these operations with elements of the National Guard and US regular Army!
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Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote:
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The following is an UNCONFIRMED RUMOR. If you have any information to confirm or deny these statements, please post and cc: safety.security@cancomm.com. As always, please specify your sources as precisely as possible. Thanks, Wes Thomas -- Forwarded --
Subject: military weapons issud to police depts. To: colombo
I'm a former cop with 16 years of experience including intelligence, SWAT, tactical operations, criminal investigations.
Police depts. are receiving free of charge from the Defense logistics Agency all kinds of military pattern small arms. these include m-16's (full auto kind), ammo, and even bayonets. Also included is webb gear, ammo pouches, ponchos, night vision devices and passive infra-red and thermal imaging night sights or night vision devices.
If you consider the above to be "unconfirmed rumor," or difficult to verify, then you need to learn how to use an InterNet search engine. Even mainstream news articles have covered the transfer of Armed Forces weapons and munitions to civilian agencies, including a major city which *returned* a load of bayonets as being too ludicrous to accept.
Sources of mine in the State of WA., say that many PD's are now training in advanced small unit tactics involving MOUT scenarios at the Yakima Army Training Center. MOUT deals with street fighting in an urban warfare context. ... Now here's the kicker. The WA. State Criminal Justice Training Commision is allegedly (good source on this) considering expanding the police academy curriculum and training hours from the present 440 hrs. to twice that amount. Civil unrest and street fighting tactics are to be included in the new blocs of instruction. Additional emphasis on sniper and full auto weapons training and intelligence gathering missions, plus joint tactical doctrine in order to facilitate working with military units may also be included. I hear other states are to join in with the same agenda to be implemented.
This is supposed to be *news*? Have you been out of the country for a few decades? Ever heard of CAMP (Campaign Against Marijuana Production)? I used to drink and get high with the CAMP crews in the heart of the sickingly press-dubbed "Emerald Triangle." It was not considered a 'state secret' that much of the purpose of this area of the War on Drugs was to facilitate male-bonding and a spirit of cooperation between federal, state and local law enfascistment agencies. The cammo-clad "volunteers" got to jump out of helicopters in the middle of North-Western schoolyards armed with the latest in federal weaponry and go play hardball with the children's hippie parents who had a half-dozen pot plants up in the hills. The main purpose of the Campaign Against Marijuana Production seemed to be to provide an opportunity for lower-level LEA agents to get comfortable with the concept of shooting family dogs in front of the citizen's children and confiscating TV's, chainsaws and other personal possessions as "aids to illegal marijuana production."
Sources with WA. State Emergency Management Services report that the WA. State Patrol is now designated the LEAD co-ordinating agency for all WAs. State police operations in the event of an emergency and in co-ordinating these operations with elements of the National Guard and US regular Army!
Don't worry about it. They will undoubtedly only use a co-ordinated front of assault teams against the 'bad' citizens, such as terrorists, drug-dealers, pedophiles, tax-cheats, people who use insufficient postage, left-handed people, and suspicious characters with last names starting with the letters A through Z. In case you have trouble understanding what they are screaming, over the sounds of your doors being kicked in and the roar of gunfire, it is probably, "We're from the government, and we're here to *help* you!" TruthMonger
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