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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:01 PM 12/20/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote:
Yeah, Matt, in a free society I wouldn't have to "speak Ebonics."
Are you talking about the School Board requirements? Are you still in High School, Tim? ;-) I have never heard you speak of children, so you might have a valid complaint if you have them in public schools (although home schooling is still an option). [Tim's Critique of currently failing attempts at social justice elided] I realize you dont agree with the tactics of some black leaders in this country, but I dont understand why you have this need to cloak your arguments in such antagonizing language. You, of course, are free to do so, I just find it counter-productive albeit sometimes humourous. Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrx3kbpijqL8wiT1AQE8MgP/dQIEwHGQJK68+dXjTD1Tfpc+ll/cRw59 h8bidDczb0eTqcE9SliY+3D+0eUx4OcYOR3HsKcEQjFl5vgVpUeqaywpnh9clHBU QOLLqCpGw1plNzqjzZNc7e0SsCvVudpv93jDJdPInF/MHELxflhAJ32DRfIyt90Q ry0EvNMfAnc= =00J2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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At 5:49 PM -0600 12/21/96, Matthew J. Miszewski wrote:
Are you talking about the School Board requirements? Are you still in High School, Tim? ;-) I have never heard you speak of children, so you might have a valid complaint if you have them in public schools (although home schooling is still an option).
The principle is of interest to even those without schoolaged children! Neither having schoolaged children nor living in the Oakland Public School System district is a necessary condition for commenting on the foolishness of "Ebonics" and other such scams. Only the most naive of commentators says things like "If your children were not cannibalized by Jeffrey Dahmer, why do you feel the need to comment on Dahmer?" (Sorry, Matthew, but I'm losing any remaining respect for your rhetorical skills. I used to think we just disagreed politically, now I see more is involved.)
I realize you dont agree with the tactics of some black leaders in this country, but I dont understand why you have this need to cloak your arguments in such antagonizing language. You, of course, are free to do so, I just find it counter-productive albeit sometimes humourous.
I was speaking of "Ebonics." That many "black leaders" support so transparent a scam and backward step is a separate issue, though, I confess, not an unexpected one. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
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Timothy C. May wrote:
At 5:49 PM -0600 12/21/96, Matthew J. Miszewski wrote:
I realize you dont agree with the tactics of some black leaders in this country, but I dont understand why you have this need to cloak your arguments in such antagonizing language. You, of course, are free to do so, I just find it counter-productive albeit sometimes humourous.
I was speaking of "Ebonics." That many "black leaders" support so transparent a scam and backward step is a separate issue, though, I confess, not an unexpected one.
No, folks, Tim doesn't generalize. Name one "black leader" who has endorsed anything like the straw man you're talking about. What we have here are a couple of kooks in charge of a politicized school board in Oakland. The word "ebonics" appears exactly zero times in Stanford's library catalog and exactly zero times in the indices of peer-reviewed academic journals to which I have access, including some very "PC" ones. DejaNews had exactly one instance of the word "ebonics" before this September, when someone in Oakland started making a fuss. The recommendations of the Oakland school board, which bear no resemblance to the nonsense spouted here, are no more representative of even the most politicized elements of black studies departments than certain Bible Belt public schools are of "white leaders." -rich
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Matthew J. Miszewski
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Rich Graves
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Timothy C. May