Anonymous wrote:

At 05:33 PM 8/22/97 -0400, you wrote:

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Great Barrington, MA -- In a recent pronouncement, television evangelist and head of the Christian Coalition, Pat Robertson, advocated death by stoning for crypto enthusiasts.

I've never understood this dumb Christian overlooking of how the world actually functions. You don't "stone" people to death anymore, there's other ways to kill them. Second, this "Pat Robertson" is a fascist.

I'm a Frisbeetarian. I believe that, when you die, your soul goes up on the roof, and you can't get it down. Nonethemore, I take umbrage at much of the recent Christian-bashing taking place on the cypherpunks list. Bash Pat Robertson, 'make fun' of Jesus, but please, stop painting with the wide brush. If I claim to speak for the cypherpunks, then I would expect to be roundly booed and set upon by Mongers with long teeth and shot at by whoever May choose to do so. I expect the same for Pat Robertson when he speaks for Jesus. He's an asshole! However, the cypherpunks mailing list serves a purpose for giving us a forum to discuss and debate issues that are important to us, and the Christian faith does likewise for those who think evolution is a Satanist plot, and Jesus plays goalie for the Chicago Blackhawks. (Jesus Saves! {But Gretsky puts in the rebounds.})

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While Robertson viewed the Internet with suspicion, on a more serious note, he launched into a diatribe against those who entertain the existence of uninhibited free speech on the Internet.

Uuuhhh...forget what I just said. Let's kill this fucker and anyone who tunes him in on "the day of the sun."

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According to Robertson, the threat is so serious that people who believe in free speech should be put to death by stoning -- according to "God's word."

This sounds like a misrepresentation of Robertson's beliefs, by someone who has an axe to grind, but now that I've got the adrenaline flowing, I don't give a shit. Let's kill him!

Fuck him. God's word is fascism, hate, narrow-mindedness, and a Big Brother State. He can take his bible and shove it up his ass.

That costs extra... At least, in the places I frequent, it does.

Sorry, we own earth, and God doesn't exist.

If God is Love, and Love is Blind, then Ray Charles must be God.

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"He has given us the Earth. He also warned us in the book of Matthew of the dangers of corrupting forces such as the Internet which can be used for evildoers:

Why do people say things like this, without giving pointers to the relevant URL's? If I'm going to avoid sinful web sites, then I need to check them out first, so that I know what I am avoiding. Being the forgiving type, I would also feel obligated to keep checking these evil web sites out on a regular basis, to see if they have repented, yet.

First of all, this also proves Christians are incabable of making real world arguments, because they rely so heavily on a 1000-page book filled with lies.

God (pardon the expression), but you have a negative attitude. There are many valuable things one can learn from studying the Bible. e.g. Q?: Who was the smallest person in the Bible? A!: The guard who fell asleep on his watch! Q?: Which stretches further, rubber or skin? A!: Skin. The Bible tells of a man who tied his ass to a tree, and walked over a mountain.

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"'A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them. (Matthew 7:17-20)'

So, if your brother has a boyfriend...

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"And you see, there is only one Word, and that is the Word of God:

Bullshit.

I've been wondering what that word was. "Bullshit..." I like that word. Does that make me a Christian?

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"'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)'"

Hey! I just typed 'God.' 'God.' Look! I did it again. Watch this... Bullshit! I'm starting to like this Christian religion thing.

Second off, cryptic responses aren't worth a shit in arguments.

That's because you don't take the time to understand them. Remember, "Patience comes to those who wait."

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"Can a demon appear as a slanty-eyed, funny-looking computer hacker?

Well, I've never actually *met* Bill Gates, but...

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Of course he can, or it can. Of course they can deceive people. And if they can lead somebody away from the true God, or away from Jesus Christ, anyway it happens, it doesn't matter, you will lose your salvation. It doesn't matter how they get you. The question is, did they get you, and under what guise?

Well, you have to consider the Support package before you really pass judgement. What kind of Jock strap are we talking about, here?

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"This is man in rebellion against God, who refuses to take God's Law. And God says, 'My covenant says you won't do this. And if I find anybody in Israel,'-- "which is his pure nation" -- 'If I find anybody in Israel that's doing this sort of thing, then I want you to take him out and dispose of him."

That is fascism. Nazi fascism.

Come on, you're overreacting. Everything is disposable these days.

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"It's a clear violation of God's word. Stone them."

"Everybody must get stoned." - Bob Dylan

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Skipp Porteous, Freedom Writer publisher, commented: "As the founder and chairman of the Christian Coalition -- a group dedicated to becoming the most powerful political force in America -- Robertson's extreme ideas need to be taken seriously, for they not only negate pluralism, but condemn to death those who dare to believe differently."

How differently does one have to believe to just get "spanked?" (I'm not into hard-core.)

This speech of his outlines in entirety the Christian Agenda. Enslaving, murder of those different, intolerance, fascism.

Jesus! (pardon the expression) Do these people put out a magazine? Color glossies? Is there bondage involved? If so, I would be willing to convert.

If Christians try to stone anyone, they should be shot right away.

Not if they pick out the seeds and stems, first.

Freedom-Thru-AtheismMonger "Your god is DEAD!!! And no one cares!!! If there is a hell, I'll see you there!!!!!" - Nine Inch Nails, "Heresy"

I bought a futures contract on "Nine Inch Nails." If they are not "Eleven Inch Nails" by this time next week, I lose my ass. I know this post doesn't make much sense, but it's Friday night and I haven't got a date. Is anybody out there getting laid tonight? Could you send me pictures? I'm desperate. The posts to alt.boring have slowed to a crawl. I'm running out of Pop Tarts. Still no word from the Reader's Digest Sweepstakes. And the way this relates to cryptography is... ...uuuhhh...John Gilmore is a cocksucker! (Bet you thought this whole damn post was going to be off-topic, didn't you?)