Here's a message I wrote to talk.politics.crypto, etc., detailing more on "anarchy" (as it relates to crypto anarchy). This may not be "code," but it relates to the implications of strong crypto. Detweiler has been very active in this group, making his usual denunciations and even confirming that tmp = Detweiler (as if there was any doubt). You have been forewarned. --Tim Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,talk.politics.crypto,alt.politics.datahighway,comp.org.eff.talk From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) Subject: Re: The Implications of Strong Cryptography Message-ID: <tcmayCprA5G.AEG@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 19:29:40 GMT Russell Nelson (nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com) wrote: : In article <tcmayCppq0I.Dyu@netcom.com> tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes: : The combination of world-spanning networks (already here) and strong : cryptography (also here) will change a lot of things. Consulting is : changing, taxation is changing (though the dinosaur's brains hasn't : gotten the signal in all fullness yet), markets will change, and even : espionage will change. The implications are pretty amazing. : Exciting, but scary. Whenever big changes happen in society, people : get scared, hurt and desperate. And when that happens, you get : Hitlers created. Read Toffler's War and Anti-War for a more : pessimistic outlook on things. All the more reason to spread the tools and methods that decentralize power, that effectively reduce the role of nations. I routinely interact with, in speech and in other transactions, people from around the world. They are my true neighbors in cyberspace, not the folks who live across the street from me. Strong crypto is not needed for all aspects of this situation, of course. But strong crypto ensures that central governments cannot easily limit these world-ranging contacts and cannot restrict the nature and number of these transactions. By the way, lest there be any confusion about the term "anarchy," it is not a synonym for everyobody killing everybody else, etc. Rather, the term has a well-established meaning: "no head," as in no "arch" running things. The books we read, the movies we see, etc., are "anarchic" in nature. It doesn't mean we can see any movies we wish, without regard to whether someone has produced them or not, or whether we can pay to get it, and so forth. It means there is not "authority" that decides who gets to see which movies. (Yes, MPAA ratings, obscenity laws...minor deviations, no pun intended.) Our networks of friends are essentially run anarchically. We deal with some people, avoid others, all without "laws." (Yes, laws come into play if we kill our friends, cheat them in business deals, etc. This doesn't change the essential fact that our relationships are handled without guidance from a ruler, a honcho, an "arch.") Many other such example abound. In fact, when I explain what anarcho-capitalism is (a term of art in libertarian circles), and how anarchy means running your own life--with market and other consequences your actions--most people realize that anarchy is actually the norm, that the State has actually minimal involvement (fortunately) in day-to-day decisions. As others have noted, libertarian ideas--shared by many folks, not just "Libertarians"--do not mean a world of houses burning down because fire departments don't exist, and other such ludicrous examples. Imagine a world in which food distribution was handled the way fire and education is now handled (and this has not always so in the U.S.). One would pay taxes, and get officially-approved food at People's Food Distribution Center #5233. What could be more normal? Now imagine someone proposing that food distribution be privatised, that folks ought to pay for what they eat, make their own choices on diet, and choose who to do business with. What a radical idea. Wouldn't everybody starve? Wouldn't this be anarchy? Yes, food distribution in the U.S. today is essentially anarchic. Ironically, my leftist hippie friends (I live near Santa Cruz, one of thee last remaining Meccas for them) understand this point very well: they cherish the ability to grow food up in the mountains and then sell it for whatever price they can get at the weekly Farmer's Market. (They think Safeway is a corporate monopolist, depite heavy competition in the grocery business, but that's another story.) Anarchy is about freedom and choice. It's really the norm, and not nearly as bad as it sounds. I'd say give it a try, but the fact is that you're practicing it right now. Think about it. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. 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