-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 14 Dec 1994, L. McCarthy wrote:
I'm using a version of ELM which claims to be MIME-compliant and usually is, but all I saw in Peter Cassidy's message was a collection of random-looking extended-ASCII characters. Usually when something arrives in a locally- unsupported MIME format (like Amanda's GIF a while back), I just get an "unrecognized format" error message. I didn't see any error messages at all this time, just a meaningless jumble of characters (different, incidentally, from the PGP-cipherptext-like characters Tim quoted).
Thats what that thing was susposed to be. I got the same things with pine, which I know is susposed to be mime aware. Anyway all this talk about it gave me an idea. A PGP mime extention, where your mail says that you have a PGP encoded message, enter secret pass phrase to contiue. I think this would do a couple of things First get PGP installed on more machines. Sys Admins who install MIME aware applications would almost be required to install PGP beacuse it is a part of MIME. Secone more people would be introduced to PGP. The first time they use a MIME aware application ie. PINE they would be given a message that they do not have a public/private key set up, ect. That time could be used to explain the basics of encryption, public/private key's, and security issuse of using PGP. Third PGP would be more frequently used beacuse it would be right there with there E-Mail, ect. It would not require as much work to set up beacuse the programs could prompt to do things ... Do you want to encrypt this E-Mail with the recipiants public key [Yn] ... Groove on dude Michael Conlen - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLvCAzyoZzwIn1bdtAQFCnQGAi19XGrhhoUi7gaAJnG6UUeUjUqvX9yL+ m7qc768s3wEs5sdEqY2mT+JVCT1ES3PB =tQFE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Michael Conlen scribbles:
Thats what that thing was susposed to be. I got the same things with pine, which I know is susposed to be mime aware. Anyway all this talk about it gave me an idea. A PGP mime extention, where your mail says that you have a PGP encoded message, enter secret pass phrase to contiue. I think this would do a couple of things
This is out in draft form.
First get PGP installed on more machines. Sys Admins who install MIME aware applications would almost be required to install PGP beacuse it is a part of MIME.
Just like they are almost required to install MS Word because of the existance of application/ms-word? Speaking as a SysAdmin, if it were a limited use item, where only a few people wanted it, I would show the users how to set up their own MIME handling, like metamail's .mailcap file.
Secone more people would be introduced to PGP. The first time they use a MIME aware application ie. PINE they would be given a message that they do not have a public/private key set up, ect. That time could be used to explain the basics of encryption, public/private key's, and security issuse of using PGP.
Only if the user chose to send things in application/pgp (or is it text/pgp?) If they chose to send text/plain, they'd never have to deal with PGP. Forcing PGP down people's throats is not a way of winning "converts." You need to convince them of the need, they present well-integrated tools that make it simple. If you try to force people to use PGP, they'll find work-arounds and do what they can to avoid it. Bob -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLvCae+S0CjsjWS0VAQHYrgP/ZtHYxq1iVJmDMlMj3GIwfKfTGm+Dka63 8i1z1b5tRaML26Ny+P47ssGINAwA3/d5TsOH8VUh5ZhVVYZ7+paveS1rNBcKf8ek JtnpSVrJ2QCW5QEamEs8wUUQJeHB1qGw85GLR56b1+YOQlI5qQ/DYDlI8Ip6xH3h T+Pqo3zBGiA= =x+8K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 15 Dec 1994, Bob Snyder wrote:
Only if the user chose to send things in application/pgp (or is it text/pgp?) If they chose to send text/plain, they'd never have to deal with PGP.
Forcing PGP down people's throats is not a way of winning "converts." You need to convince them of the need, they present well-integrated tools that make it simple. If you try to force people to use PGP, they'll find work-arounds and do what they can to avoid it.
True, I never want to foce people to use something, however an application so universily used such as e-mail would make a good place to present PGP and allow people to have access to it without downloading and compiling PGP for their selves, for each computer that uses PGP, ect. If PGP remains as obscure to thoes not intrested in crypto, then I think the program will not reach the people it is intented for, the masses. Not everyone knows how to compile a program, or has the intrest in it enough to read the docs that come with it to set it up. this is the reason I have not used it yet, beacuse of just getting it set up. Groove on Dude Michael Conlen
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