On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 04:53:48AM +0000, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:

Sounds like someone should upload a package that fixes all of the privacy problems, eh?

I've thought about this for a couple of days and about 20 miles, and although my initial reaction was "yes, they should", I'm now going to reverse myself and say "well...maybe not". Here's why. I think the problem here is not susceptible to patching, because the root cause isn't software: it's mindset. The people who think that this is actually a good idea -- and persist in thinking so despite cogent (and in my opinion, highly persuasive) arguments to the contrary -- are unlikely to shift course. The course they've embarked on inevitably leads to more of the same -- oh, with different technical details and levels of impact, of course, but still: more of the same. I am reminded of one of my favorite quotes: "I could warn you of course, but you would not listen. I could kill you, but someone would take your place. So I do the only thing I can. I go." I don't think the situation is salvageable; I think the effort that could be put into trying to do so is better spent elsewhere. I think it's time to go. ---rsk -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE