From rsk@gsp.org Fri Jul 6 02:32:23 2018 From: Rich Kulawiec To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [greg@pryzby.org: Ubuntu, Dash, Shuttleworth and privacy] Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 02:32:23 +0000 Message-ID: <172289281698.3881296.10699728788085687643.generated@mail.pglaf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2696503710839649919==" --===============2696503710839649919== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 04:53:48AM +0000, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > Sounds like someone should upload a package that fixes all of the > privacy problems, eh? I've thought about this for a couple of days and about 20 miles, and although my initial reaction was "yes, they should", I'm now going to reverse myself and say "well...maybe not". Here's why. I think the problem here is not susceptible to patching, because the root cause isn't software: it's mindset. The people who think that this is actually a good idea -- and persist in thinking so despite cogent (and in my opinion, highly persuasive) arguments to the contrary -- are unlikely to shift course. The course they've embarked on inevitably leads to more of the same -- oh, with different technical details and levels of impact, of course, but still: more of the same. I am reminded of one of my favorite quotes: "I could warn you of course, but you would not listen. I could kill you, but someone would take your place. So I do the only thing I can. I go." I don't think the situation is salvageable; I think the effort that could be put into trying to do so is better spent elsewhere. I think it's time to go. ---rsk -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanfor= d.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE --===============2696503710839649919==--