Revisionist Reinterpretation
Responding to msg by Jim choate, quoting another:
We might also add Shay's Rebellion, Bacon's Rebellion, the Hudson River Renters' Uprising, the Pullman Strike, the Homestead Strike, the Ludlow Massacre, the Lawrence Textile Strikes, etc., etc. Many of these were full-scale insurrections. This country's "progress" is really just a series of grudging concessions made by authoritarian power structures to various nearly catastrophic crises.
I have a hard time comparing any of these histricaly important but comparatively minor events to the half a million dead of the Civil War or the 50,000+ dead of Vietnam. Perhaps you have extended the analogy a little too far?... .......................................................... I think he was talking about the Principle of the deal, Jim - about what this means regarding the relationship of the citizenry to the big G. Put all of those insurrections together and what do they spell? F _ _ _ _ _ F Blanc
I think he was talking about the Principle of the deal, Jim - about what this means regarding the relationship of the citizenry to the big G. Put all of those insurrections together and what do they spell?
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Blanc
The problem I have with this interpretationis that it overlooks, to me, a bigger point... Mainly that these conflicts dealt with disagreements within the 'big G' and were not directly about the people - big G dichotomy that you refer to. Personaly, I still feel that the people of this country are the true government of this nation. We have representatives who are in a position where they approach their office as a 'job' and not a sacred duty to every individual they meet on the street every day. They see their oath to uphold the Constitution as a minor point and not THE point. Section 1401 and 1402 of the Crime Bill (aptly named since it is a crime) which regard the seizure of private property for funding during a criminal investigation. I go the Constitution and it says that if you take private property for public use you have to recompense the private owner. There is no caveat dealing with whether it is a crime or not or whether it was used in a crime. From my point of view if a 'official' takes your property and does not send you a check (you agreed a priori) for it then they have committed a crime that is in direct and clear violation of the Constitution. All criminal seizure programs are clearly unconstitutional.
I think he was talking about the Principle of the deal, Jim - about what this means regarding the relationship of the citizenry to the big G. Put all of those insurrections together and what do they spell?
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Blanc
As to putting them all together, you do a diservice in my eyes. They did not occur together and they certainly did not occur in the same social milieu that the Civil War or the Vietnam War - Civil Disobedience did. There were national events that effected every person. The events that you refer to were local events that eventually effected every person on a national scale. Slightly different animals.
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