Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
On Jul 10, 12:29pm, JR@ns.cnb.uam.es wrote:
Maybe they would be better off fighting against a system that alienates them than contributing to support it? Seems to me that's shooting their own foot.
Maybe, but consider that they are unable to focus properly on any activity. Revolution requires long term focus & unusually good organizational skills, both are weak in add types. On Jul 10, 8:13am, "Clay Olbon II" wrote:
or alcohol while pregnant or nursing. It is important to consider that any drug used over a period of time may have lasting (possibly negative) effects, and that these effects are multiplied when the drugs are taken by still-developing children.
It's a serious question, no doubt about it.
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?
Well, for the add child, they don't get a proper education by any measure, no matter what their symptoms are, without some kind of treatment. This does not necessarily include drugs, of course, but some appear to benefit from it. For the class, a hyperactive student -- ONE -- is more than sufficient to bring the house down & make it impossible for the rest of the class to learn anything much of the time. As a taxpayer or parent with children in such a classroom you may find this a matter of some concern. On Jul 10, 8:37am, The Deviant wrote:
hrmm.. I'm certified ADHD, and I drink more than LD50 Caffeine in cokes per day.... what does that make me? ;)
Probably a good candidate for this year's tooth decay poster child %^)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Michael Helm wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:12:08 PDT From: Michael Helm <mike@fionn.lbl.gov> To: The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com, JR@ns.cnb.uam.es, Clay Olbon II <Clay.Olbon@dynetics.com> Subject: Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
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Well, for the add child, they don't get a proper education by any measure, no matter what their symptoms are, without some kind of treatment. This does not necessarily include drugs, of course, but some appear to benefit from it. For the class, a hyperactive student -- ONE -- is more than sufficient to bring the house down & make it impossible for the rest of the class to learn anything much of the time. As a taxpayer or parent with children in such a classroom you may find this a matter of some concern.
hrmm.. While what you say is SOMETIMES true, it usually is not. For instance, my older brother and I took American History in school the same year. I took it at a school for people with learning disabilites, he took it in a perfectly normal public school. EVERYBODY in my class had ADHD. EVERYBODY. He was the only person in his class who was afflicted with this. His teacher noted that he was one of the least trouble making students. My class got through the material, his class did not. See my point? BTW, in case it makes any difference, he was on ritalin (spelling? I dunno, neither of us can spell ;) at the time, and I was not, although most of the people in my class were.
On Jul 10, 8:37am, The Deviant wrote:
hrmm.. I'm certified ADHD, and I drink more than LD50 Caffeine in cokes per day.... what does that make me? ;)
Probably a good candidate for this year's tooth decay poster child %^)
Hrmmm... doubtful... I've actually never had a cavaty... maybe the gengavitis poster child, but... --Deviant -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMeP/TzAJap8fyDMVAQFfTQf8D0INraQLhKxLQNdiNMr5l91Xwf/NBhj0 Zz6262NtVgSoimS5gnhz60QtL2Klqwe+3BzKx1omjT/19DBMP7wY9tqcqc6A4EZz A5/IYBxRJSDoC9g1ANCGK2TlXS5tEHKg1QQG5fBUOl/+8uDMq+dXLHnjqYwtLFuJ Cg2K4f1D9InIsfsnSkjHUKDj+saaOvR/Gfj/Pdg6veg3R0Vku9oqgxMbJs5Uq0rm uXjf8Eu4hzuVr2MZtHJC/ngPQoUnKnmgl7cVdMlvFK1D+q0rqrR32cLLIfjdXuu0 +VeRA1KFhGDSE612AzvomsIsxRJXWkkiRIGqdJxndLfiyYlBVqZYLw== =Hdq2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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