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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:02:36 -0700 From: Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: OUBAKAYAROU!! (fwd)

At the time the list was created, and I subscribed to it, the announcement indicated that cypherpunks-j and cypherpunks-e were independent lists, rather than mirrors,

No, Bill, the cypherpunks-e list was announced by me and it was announced as a *specific* member of the existing CDR started at my specific request. Only the cypherpunks-j was ever announced as the indipendant list, which I intended to change. I further sent out a note requesting feedback on non-English traffic and it's acceptance on the existing CDR. I received nothing but smart-ass replies so we decided not to gateway that traffic but leave the cypherpunks-j traffic fully indipendantly. That lack of responce is what motivated the cypherpunks-e list. It was nearly a week after the -j list that the -e came online because I had to work that weekend and the -j operator was going to Australia.

Well, for a while, -e was badly broken. However, if the purpose of the list is to be yet another mirror, fine, getting list mirrors working is a trickier job than getting an independent list up and working.

It is still 'broken' in that the mailer software they use doesn't accept submissions with blank subject: lines. As a consequence I get several bounces a day, usualy from anonymous accounts, that I simply /dev/null. Whether this is a bug or a feature is up to your own interpretation. I am looking into putting something in place so that SSZ puts something like: Subject: [unknown subject] on the traffic that is subject: blank since the -j and -e remailer software can't have this behaviour turned off.

Yeah; you've been getting flaked a lot lately. I remember back in the old days having to get New Jersey Bell to deal with bad data quality on my home voice line

About the only good thing I can say is that I got a $150 credit and the phone bill is $70/month for the 3 analog lines so I get to ride free dial-in's on SWBT's dollar for two months. The ISDN seems to be relatively stable since turning in the trouble call and doing the testing, which showed 100% reliability (right). ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage@ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|