Re: SSNs (was Re: Internal Passports)
At 12:59 PM 8/5/96 -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
Well, it would be nice if it was that easy. You (legally) need to give the correct one to anyone who has to make a report about you to the IRS, right? Such as your employer.
Virtually no one in the history of the world has done any time for giving a false SS#. Considering the fact that millions of Americans daily drive drunk, exceed the lawful speed limit, drift through stop signs without coming to a complete halt pick each other up in bars and do a host of other things that are much more likely to get them in trouble than making up an SS#, I am constantly *amazed* that people always advise you not to do so. If it's good enough for the President of Israel, it's good enough for anyone.
Is it needed to get a driver's license? (The fine print on the DMV forms says "yes".)
But most DMVs don't check and the SS is still resisting verification services (at least until the Immigration Bill passes).
Is it necessary to make use of employer-sponsored medical insurance? (I suspect that the answer to this one is "no", except for the fact that when my employer set up my medical insurance they let the insurance company use my SSN as my insurance-related-ID-number. But in any event, my dentist told me, "if you don't give it to us, they won't pay.")
Just make sure you give the insurance company and the doctor the same number.
If you already have a SSN, can you get a *new* one in any legal way? (Sort of the same idea as changing your phone number to avoid telemarketing scum...)
The SS resists issuing new numbers in spite of widespread duplication and theft. Soon people will find themselves denied the right to work in this country unless the SS reverses this reluctance. If your SS# is stolen and used "too many times" in a future worker verification program, you're screwed. And there won't even be any welfare for you. Use Alta Vista to find the SS Number FAQ. There's more stuff. DCF
one silly thought: lots of people use cypherpunks as the username and password for all those websites that want an id. What about a cypherpunks 3-2-4 number for those cases where an SSN isn't appropriate. Anyone know what J. Edgar Hoover's SSN was? --- Cause maybe (maybe) | In my mind I'm going to Carolina you're gonna be the one that saves me | - back in Chapel Hill May 16th. And after all | Email address remains unchanged You're my firewall - | ........First in Usenet.........
Simon Spero <ses@tipper.oit.unc.edu> writes:
one silly thought: lots of people use cypherpunks as the username and password for all those websites that want an id. What about a cypherpunks 3-2-4 number for those cases where an SSN isn't appropriate. Anyone know what J. Edgar Hoover's SSN was?
Yes, that does indeed sound silly. BTW, the UNABOMer's secret ID number, used to identify various communications with the NYT as being his, is reported (Mad Genius and a government deposition) to be 553-25-4394, which allegedly turned out to be the SSN of a prisoner somewhere in California. I suppose it's not useful for this application, since it belongs to somebody who might need it again sometime. Jim Gillogly 14 Wedmath S.R. 1996, 05:21
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