Re: Enough is Never Enough -- pro-CDA alliances, from TNNN
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:04:35 -0800 (PST) From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> To: fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Enough is Never Enough -- pro-CDA alliances, from TNNN
[Attached are two excerpts from the article. For the rest, check out: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/textonly/1,1035,549,00.html --Declan]
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The Netly News Network http://netlynews.com/
Enough Is Never Enough By Declan McCullagh (declan@well.com) January 17, 1997
A broad coalition of conservative and anti-pornography groups and individuals will file legal briefs next Tuesday in the Supreme Court supporting the government's defense of the Communications Decency Act, The Netly News has learned.
The alliance includes longtime supporters of the act, such as Enough is Enough, Focus on the Family, and the National Association of Evangelicals. Members of Congress will join a separate brief that the National Law Center for Children and Families is preparing.
But a letter from the attorney representing the coalition asked the ACLU for permission to file a brief "on behalf of" 59 plaintiffs, including such unlikely participants as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, PBS, SafeSurf... and Netscape.
Netscape? The company that lobbied against the CDA? A firm with a reputation of putting their balls on the chopping block when fighting for Net-issues on Capitol Hill? Netscape was as shocked as I was to learn about their participation. "It wasn't authorized by me or my office. This is flabbergasting," Peter Harter, public policy counsel for Netscape, said. "I'd be crucified if this happened."
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In their brief, which argues sociological rather than legal points, the groups hope to highlight the "dangers" of pornography online. They plan to supply the court with "legislative facts" to support the position Congress took when crafting the bill. The document also will include statistics discussing the effects of the Internet on children and the availability of material covered by the law. (Marty Rimm, where are you now?)
Donna Rice-Hughes from Enough is Enough says: "It discusses three primary areas of our concern: letting the court know the problems on the Internet. Adult pornography, indecency, and child porn as well. A section on the harms of pornography. And a section dealing with the compliance issues: Is it feasible technically to comply with the CDA?"
Stuff like this makes me sick. What the hell is up with these people!? You offended me so you must leave. Well, excuse me, there is a reason internet addresses have a WWW URL. It stands for World Wide Web and as such encompasses the world. If there is stuff in the world that offends someone, don't look! But to tell everyone else that they can't either since some were offended, that is a starting point for cencorship. Now it's porn, tomorrow it's you saying what you beleive (that might also be the truth...) If one is offended by something, don't look! How come Catholicism doesn't get banned and outlawed? Hell, it offends me... Guess not people!
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Chris Stamper and Noah Robischon contributed to this report.
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Donna Rice-Hughes from Enough is Enough says: "It discusses
primary areas of our concern: letting the court know the
Sir Robin of Locksley wrote: three problems on
the Internet. Adult pornography, indecency, and child porn as well.
Now it's porn, tomorrow it's you saying what you beleive (that might also be the truth...) If one is offended by something, don't look! How come Catholicism doesn't get banned and outlawed? Hell, it offends me...
I'm afraid that you are in the minority in your beliefs, at least here on the CypherPunks list. Most CypherPunks believe that we need a higher authority to protect us from things that we don't want to see. Most CypherPunks see that Beneviolent Moderation is a good thing, as was made plain from the discussions on the list in this regard, so I assume that they would not be so hypocritical as to oppose the attempts of others to bring the blessing of Beneviolent Moderation to everyone on the InterNet. I expect the majority of CypherPunks will be more than willing to throw their support behind efforts to remove pornography from the whole InterNet, just as they were eager to remove posts containing 'bad words' from this list. Of course, you must realize that I don't pretend to speak for all CypherPunks subscribers--only for the upright, decent ones, who, like Donna Rice-Hughes, want to live in a safe, filtered world, free from the intrusion of wrong-thinkers. Some of the CypherPunk subscribers seem to favor taking personal responsibility for what they chose to read or not read, but they are just a small, troublesome minority on the list. Donna Rice-Hughes and her crowd are merely late-comers on the moderation scene, trying to emulate the 'good' CypherPunks who finally stood up and said, "Enough is enough." Toto
Toto wrote:
Sir Robin of Locksley wrote:
Donna Rice-Hughes from Enough is Enough says: "It discusses three primary areas of our concern: letting the court know the problems on the Internet. Adult pornography, indecency, and child porn as well.
Now it's porn, tomorrow it's you saying what you beleive (that might also be the truth...) If one is offended by something, don't look! How come Catholicism doesn't get banned and outlawed? Hell, it offends me...
I didn't see the question anywhere, so I'm asking: This Donna Rice-Hughes couldn't possibly be the Donna Rice who sat on Gary Hart's lap for the famous picture, could she?
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