From: Phil Karn <karn@qualcomm.com>

Once again, I would like to say that tying cryptography to the Second Amendment is exceptionally bad strategy for the Cypherpunks.

I agree with this. I don't agree personally with liberal democrat interpetations of the 2nd Amendment. The first 10 amendments are the 'Bill of Rights' and are individual rights.

Worst of all are the complete loonies (some apparently on this list) who assert that guns are an essential protection against a tyrannical US Federal Government.

I am a strong believer in the right to protect one's personal privacy through strong cryptography and other purely peaceful means. I'm not trying to violently overthrow the government, and I'd rather not be associated with gun fetishists who give the strong impression that they are -- it can only hurt the cause I believe in.

I'm not a democrat, republican, socialist or facist. Please don't give my rights away to support your point of view for some other imagined or real right. I am not now nor have I in the past advocated the violent overthrow of the United States. Resolved: The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with the right to Privacy, with or without respect to cryptography as a means to insure privacy from others or the State. -------- Life Time member of the NRA, who believes Pierre comes on rabid. Libertarian. Gun owner who receives no vicarious pleasure from guns. (They don't qualify as fetish items) -------- A Country that can have a McCarthy era has no business giving more power to its government.