mindspring.com> <slrn676p9b.728.ichudov@manifold.algebra.com> <m3hg981owi.fsf@w Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> wrote:

* I am specifically pissed at Igor about trolling for votes on random ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ newsgroups and on Cypherpunks. I am not pissed at him for disliking ^^^^^^^^^^^ the moderation policy; he's entirely entitled to dislike the moderation policy and vote accordingly.

* If he keeps trolling for votes on Cypherpunks to defeat random ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ moderated group proposals he doesn't happen to like for one reason or another, I'll keep doing what I can to counter his propaganda campaigns (and judging from this result, I think it's fairly obvious that he'll continue losing and may in fact help a few groups *pass* that wouldn't have otherwise just by being as annoying as he was this time).

In what sense are you using the word "trolling"? Are you saying that the mention of a proposal to ban anonymity is considered "trolling" when posted amongst a group of pro-privacy, pro-anonymity individuals such as the Cypherpunks? Or are you objecting, in general, to the mention of a proposal to ANY group that's not likely to favor it? Why should a proposal to require the disclosure of a poster's e-mail address (and its contribution to the address harvesters) as a pre-requisite to express an opinion not itself be fully disclosed and discussed? Were you counting on slipping that rule through unnoticed? Why is publicly disagreeing with you considered a "propaganda campaign"? Why should the C.A.U.C.E. brand of propaganda be the only variety allowed? When I first heard of the C.A.U.C.E., my initial thought was that it was a good idea. Finally a means to fight back against the spammers. Now I'm starting to wonder what sort of agenda is driving some of these illogical anti-privacy requirements. As bad as spam and UCE has become, one does have to make sure that each proposed cure isn't worse than the disease itself. For example, you *COULD* remedy the problem of criminals carrying concealed weapons by requiring everyone to walk the streets naked... --