Never. I don't _ever_ want to see this made into a 'semi-private' mailing list. Extropians, for example, does this, and it's ended up being an incestuous, closed group, with extremely low signal-to-noise ratio; as the same groups of people chatter and blather about the same subjects to no end. I'd rather have the list the way it is. At least the noise is usually _new_ noise; and new signal comes in constantly. I even prefer it with L. Detweiler; perhaps he'll cease his rather garbled rants and return to being a constructive poster. In any case, if this sort of thing were ever to be put to a vote, I'd be emailing everyone I knew not to have anything to do with such a giddy, doomed proposal. ---- Robert W. F. Clark PGP Key Available Upon Request rclark@nyx.cs.du.edu clark@metal.psu.edu