Someone on this list complained that there was one list that allowed uncensored postings, and this was it. Not that Dr. Vulis has been kicked off that character of the list is either tarnished or alltogether gone. The same person likened this to a violation of Libertarian ideals, etc. The way I see it is this, being on this list is a priveledge, not a right. When someone abuses that priveledge they may lose it. Plain and simple. It is also worthy to note that the Right to Free Speech, etc. applies to the government (IOW, the government can not hinder the right to free speech so long as that speech does not infringe upon someone else's right. Since when is this list government run? The decision was apparently a personal one. Dr. Vulis was apparently asked nicely several times to stop flaming, and post on relevant subject matter. He did not. Does the Libertarian ideal also approve of uninhibited abuse of priveledges? I don't think so. To sum up, I really don't see any conflict between John's actions and the Libertarian way of thought, but that's just my personal opinion. Later, Alex F @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Alex F - Internet Security Systems Webmaster/Security Training alexf@iss.net @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@