
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM writes:
Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> writes:
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM writes:
Those who are newcomers to the list should know that Vulis has never presented any evidence substantiating his vague claims that Stronghold is insecure or has backdoors (or whatever the claims were). Vulis is conducting a personal vendetta against one of C2Net's staff members and anyone who happened to be or become associated with him.
Nor do I have to present any evidence.
You misordered this: it should say "Nor do I have any evidence to present."
I'm not the one selling StrongHold.
No, you're the one trying to torpedo its sales to get back at certain individuals for some perceived slight.
I have received several threatening communications from C2Net's lawyers, which were discussed at length on this list. To avoid unpleasant disputes I agreed not to disseminate my opinions about StrongHold.
Amazingly, C2Net doesn't like to see its product publicly slandered by reptiles like Vulis. If Vulis' opinion were based on anything other than personal ill will - ie, if he had ever actually downloaded and examined Stronghold and found any problems with it - he would have a leg to stand on. As it is, his allegations are completely unfounded.
Please keep this in mind if you consider buying it.
Keep in mind that anything Vulis says is in all likelihood a complete lie.

nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM writes:
Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> writes:
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM writes:
Those who are newcomers to the list should know that Vulis has never presented any evidence substantiating his vague claims that Stronghold is insecure or has backdoors (or whatever the claims were). Vulis is conducting a personal vendetta against one of C2Net's staff members and anyone who happened to be or become associated with him.
Nor do I have to present any evidence.
You misordered this: it should say "Nor do I have any evidence to present."
Nope. Like I said, I'm not selling Stronghold or any competing product, I don't lose anything when someone foolishly buys it, so why should I present any evidence? I (and several other people on this mailing list) were threatened by C2Net's lawyers; so to avoid unpleasant disputes, I told them I won't be publishing whatever I might know about their product.
I'm not the one selling StrongHold.
No, you're the one trying to torpedo its sales to get back at certain individuals for some perceived slight.
No I'm not. What do I lose if someone not affiliated with me makes a foolish purchasing decision? That's why I complied with C2Net's request not to publish my opinions of their product.
I have received several threatening communications from C2Net's lawyers, which were discussed at length on this list. To avoid unpleasant disputes I agreed not to disseminate my opinions about StrongHold.
Amazingly, C2Net doesn't like to see its product publicly slandered by reptiles like Vulis. If Vulis' opinion were based on anything other than personal ill will - ie, if he had ever actually downloaded and examined Stronghold and found any problems with it - he would have a leg to stand on. As it is, his allegations are completely unfounded.
If this were true, then C2Net would encourage me to publicly present whatever "evidence" I have so they'd be able to refute it. This is not what they asked me to do.
Please keep this in mind if you consider buying it.
Keep in mind that anything Vulis says is in all likelihood a complete lie.
Keep in mind that "anonymous" is probably an employee of C2Net. Several of C2Net's shills used to post C2Net propaganda withouy revealing their C2Net affiliation; they switched to anonymous remailers when their nyms were exposed. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM writes:
I (and several other people on this mailing list) were threatened by C2Net's lawyers; so to avoid unpleasant disputes, I told them I won't be publishing whatever I might know about their product.
You obviously didn't know anything about it anyway.
No, you're the one trying to torpedo its sales to get back at certain individuals for some perceived slight.
No I'm not.
An obvious lie. Big surprise.
That's why I complied with C2Net's request not to publish my opinions of their product.
You complied no doubt because you knew that your 'opinions' were baseless, and that you had no defense to a libel suit.
If this were true, then C2Net would encourage me to publicly present whatever "evidence" I have so they'd be able to refute it. This is not what they asked me to do.
You have no evidence, Liar. I'm sure they simply asked you to stop publishing lies about them.
Keep in mind that "anonymous" is probably an employee of C2Net.
Actually I'm not. Even so, this is just another wormy tactic to deflect attention from the fact that you're lying.
Several of C2Net's shills used to post C2Net propaganda withouy revealing their C2Net affiliation; they switched to anonymous remailers when their nyms were exposed.
I have little doubt that this is just another unfounded allegation from the mouth of Dimitri Vulis, Noted Liar. -Frondeur

At 10:45 AM 10/2/97 EDT, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
Amazingly, C2Net doesn't like to see its product publicly slandered by reptiles like Vulis. If Vulis' opinion were based on anything other than personal ill will - ie, if he had ever actually downloaded and examined Stronghold and found any problems with it - he would have a leg to stand on. As it is, his allegations are completely unfounded.
If this were true, then C2Net would encourage me to publicly present whatever "evidence" I have so they'd be able to refute it. This is not what they asked me to do.
But it is what you *SHOULD* do. If you have evidence, then present it. If not, then you are just blowing smoke and FUD. C2Net should have demanded proof instead of getting defensive. That worries me, not because of "hidden backdoors", but because it shows lack of confidence in their own products. But lack of confidence has nothing to do with actual strength of the product.
Please keep this in mind if you consider buying it.
Keep in mind that anything Vulis says is in all likelihood a complete lie.
Keep in mind that "anonymous" is probably an employee of C2Net. Several of C2Net's shills used to post C2Net propaganda withouy revealing their C2Net affiliation; they switched to anonymous remailers when their nyms were exposed.
Well, I am *NOT* an employee of C2Net. Put up or shut up. If you have evidence, then show it. This "stronghold is weak" rant sounds much like the Creationists on talk.origins. They make pronouncements and then expect others to disprove them. The real world does not work like that. (I guess they do not teach the scientific method at any school you have ever attended. Or maybe you just skipped class...) I personally think the reason you do not show it is because you do not HAVE any evidence. You have lied about people to justify your petty little hatreds before. (Accusing people you do not know of child mollestation is an old favorite of yours.) This one seems to fall into that category as well. If you do have evidence and refuse to post it, then you are just helping C2Net. --- | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano@teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan@ctrl-alt-del.com|
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