(Please leave my name in any replies to ensure I see your comments.) I talked to Hugh Daniel at the Saturday meeting about the creation of an "alt.cypherpunks" unmoderated (of course) newsgroup as a possible alternative (or supplement) to cypherpunks@toad.com. Greg Broiles and John Gilmore were there for part of the discussion, too.

Might "we" get wider propigation with something like "talk.issues.crypto" or "talk.cypherpunks"?

Charter for alt.cypherpunks: (suggested) "Alt.cypherpunks is for the unmoderated discussion of cryptography and the political, social, and economic implications of unrestricted, strong readers are strongly advised to learn how to use filters and other tools for making virtual anarchies manageable for their own tastes."

Maybe a pointer to these tools?

* Disadvantages

-Mailing lists easily penetrate firewalls, while many places don't provide Usenet access. Another possibility would be to create a "private Usenet" setting up NNTP servers that _only_ talk to each other. This would eventually allow for the same sort of redundancy that the "regular" usenet offers, provide some of the same efficient use of resources, and ease of use (almost) but provide some protection against spammers & etc. For those who don't understand, this is how it would work (and correct me if I am wrong): Usenet works by servers exchanging messages with one or more other servers it is decentralized and has no central authority (execpt the cabal --there is no cabal) inherent in the process. These servers are told _who_ they get their feed from/to, so it should be possible to set up another network of Usenet servers just to serve our purposes. As part of setting up the servers, they can be configured as to who they From owner-cypherpunks Wed Feb 12 08:00:24 1997 Return-Path: owner-cypherpunks Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22396; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702121600.IAA22396@toad.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:56:59 -0800 From: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> To: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: whois cypherpunks.org ? Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk At 08:04 PM 2/11/97 -0500, John Young wrote: [Trying whois] Eric Hughes and John Gilmore are fouders of this list. Aleph1 is the moderator of the famous bugtraq mailing list. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi