Re: Chomsky (Thread from Hell)
Responding to msg by James A. Donald:
He implies that democratic control of speech and ideas would be a vast improvement in our civil liberties, that it would make us more free.
But who pays attention to what Chomsky thinks (say, by comparison to others similarly inclined).
In other words he is perverting the language so that for him "freedom of speech" is democratic control of speech and ideas by the people.
Then who is going to understand what he really means?
He continually describes (and wildly exaggerates) the problem using language that implies that only a collective, rather than individual, response to misinformation can make us free.
He isn't the only one who ever has, or ever will, advocate such things. He's not on the board of directors of the NII, is he; or how does he exert influence?
. . . .Chomsky fans show a notable lack of tolerance for other forms of speech, as is most noticeable on the net.
So is it Chomsky, or his fans who are the problem? And how do they succeed in making themselves influential?
Since there are clearly a great many people who seek and desire totalitarianism, with their group at the top, we should hardly be surprised to see large number of people seeking to achieve this through means that are workable and feasible, rather than through means that are absurd and impossible.
This type of person is interchangeable: they could follow someone (like Chomsky) today or someone else tomorrow. It should always be possible to recognize the difference between one thing and another - one kind of idea or social system or another - just as you have, by seeing the contradictions and actual relations in the expressed statements, proposals, methodologies, etc. It looks as though you are simply fighting the ideas which many people have always found to their advantage to believe, but I can't see where Chomsky is the only & most important reason why they are willing to think as they do. So - those are my comments on Chomsky, about which I will write no more, as he doesn't sound interesting at all to pursue. Blanc
In article <199409260616.XAA16173@deepthought.pylon.com>, <blancw@pylon.com> wrote:
But who pays attention to what Chomsky thinks (say, by comparison to others similarly inclined).
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He isn't the only one who ever has, or ever will, advocate such things. He's not on the board of directors of the NII, is he; or how does he exert influence?
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So is it Chomsky, or his fans who are the problem? And how do they succeed in making themselves influential?
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This type of person is interchangeable: they could follow someone (like Chomsky) today or someone else tomorrow.
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It looks as though you are simply fighting the ideas which many people have always found to their advantage to believe, but I can't see where Chomsky is the only & most important reason why they are willing to think as they do. So - those are my comments on Chomsky, about which I will write no more, as he doesn't sound interesting at all to pursue.
Amazing. Truly amazing. You could try actually reading what the man's written before dismissing him on one person's inflamatory rhetoric. I assure you, what he has to say is quite interesting, whether you agree with it or not (I don't always): it's just not worth arguing with someone who claims to know what Chomsky believes better than Chomsky does. -- L. Todd Masco | "A man would simply have to be as mad as a hatter, to try and cactus@bb.com | change the world with a plastic platter." - Todd Rundgren
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