Responding to msg by Al Billings:

FYI, there have been some meetings/gatherings in cities other than the

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Bay Area. Some that I recall:

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* Seattle. May have had a meeting.

We had one (which I was at) and there might have been a second. For some reason, there hasn't been any follow-up in the last six or more months to them. ..................................................... There was a second meeting - I set it up, sent out several notices, received around 11 replies, then only 4 people showed up (2 were co-workers from MS). Maybe it's because it was a rare sunny day and everyone decided to go sailing, I don't know, but I decided there was not enough interest for me to continue making all the effort it took to get people to meet. Blanc