-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I seem to have introduced one of the leading white supremacist activists to PGP and cypherpunk remailers recently, perhaps because of my promise to archive their mailing list publicly and spoof messages from them if they didn't. I'm so proud. I assume the ADL and allied organizations will be learning more about PGP as well. Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 1024/C01741A1 1996/02/01 Don Black <dblack@jbx.com> ^^^^^^^^^^ Tom Metzger <metzger@cts.com> and Neo-Nazi straight woman Ingrid Rimland <ezundel@cts.com> do not yet use PGP, but I'm working on it. The message below (Stormfront-L is Don's moderated mailing list for "Aryan" activists, which can be quite entertaining -- subscription instructions at tail) has a few technical misconceptions that should probably be corrected, though of course it would be Bad to cross-pollinate the lists. I've also created and propagated PGP keys for each of Don Black's other email addresses as a way of teaching him about key identification, propagation, and signing. There was an earlier message on Stormfront-L from an alpha.c2.org nym who was having trouble. I assume Sameer helped him out. So anyway, here's the message. I have a few more comments after the included message. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 13:01:02 GMT From: Stormfront-l <stormfront-l@stormfront.org> To: llurch@networking.stanford.edu Subject: Re: a message on Stormfront-L NOTE: THIS MESSAGE WAS ORIGINALLY ADDRESSED TO DON BLACK From: Secret Squirrel Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 13:01:02 GMT Subject: Re: a message on Stormfront-L BTW it is a good idea to sign your own key, as this helps defeat fraudulent use of your pgp public key. (I don't know how it's done, but read about the problem on alt.security.pgp). I've signed my key twice, once with my 1024 and again with my 2048 bit key. I saw a message on Stormfront-L saying that the 'international version' was the best PGP system, however this is only for use outside the USA. It might be best for nationalists in the US to note this in order to avoid any problems. (It does have 2048 bit security, but 2.6.2 can generate 2047 bits, so it isn't that bad!) Also people should use a _minimum_ of 1024 bits as smaller numbers have been 'cracked'. In a message to Stormfront-L re: White Wolf, it was stated that there was problems posting to that address. I can confirm that there is interference with the remailers and pseudo-anonymous mailers. I believe that neither of these systems is secure. In my case I found that one could subscribe to your list, but the moment one posted to it, the account was blocked. Further that anonymous messages sent to the list via a remailer (no a/c) would get through on the first attempt, but not afterwards. This suggests that the enemy inform the sysops of the remailers, and subsequently posting is blocked from those remailers. Further I suspect that the remailers keep 'message in - - message out' ID logs, which means that (if they take sufficient interest) a message could be subsquently traced back through a chain of remailers. There is a method of finding out where messages come from, it is called (I believe) 'packet tracing'. It is possible that I've experienced this with pseudo-anonymous posts to your list. I set up an account with alpha.c2.org via remailers (they wouldn't know my real address) however the messages were stripped from your list, and large numbers of 'packets' of the same size were sent out, i.e. my reply-block only. These packets can be traced through remailers to an address (by people with sufficient computing power). Believe me the enemy is so concerned with the white-nationalist movement, they want to know exactly who is posting. If you search amongst the web sites dealing with security, the details of tracing etc. are fully documented (unfortunately I've lost the addresses due to problems with my web browser cache). The use of anon accounts is useful to the sender, however people who reply will, no doubt, have there addresses recorded at alpha.c2.org etc. All mail sent by nationalists to their comrades should be in PGP, so even if their adds. are recorded the contents will be (mostly) hidden. Although the anon people may hit back by blocking the a/c! The anon server at anon.penet.fi is basically useless for posting to the alt.nationalism group. All my messages have been returned 'unwanted group'. I've also found that the mail-to-news gateways won't accept traffic to those groups either. Essentially the enemy has denied people anonymous access to nationalist usenet groups. For a short period my ISP blocked direct posting to alt.politics.nationalism.white, but for some reason this has been restored. I hope the above has been of interest to you, and if you wish to forward the info. to the list etc., please anonymize it. Regards, - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Multiple recipients of the Stormfront-L Mailing List Host: Don Black <dblack@mail.stormfront.org> Finger for PGP public key. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to 'listserv@stormfront.org' with the line 'unsubscribe Stormfront-L' in the message BODY, not the subject. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----- Processed with Listserv v2.83 for Wildcat v4 - ---------- End Forwarded message ---------- I like Nazis and racists. I want to learn more about them. Where they live, how they make their money, who they call, and so on. All completely above-ground, of course. By the way, does anyone know of any security deficiencies in this Wildcat Listserv software that would allow someone to obtain the list membership? They seem to be assuming that it's a secret, which IMO is a bad policy. They should all move to anonymous remailers or, better, carrier pigeons. If you know of any sich problems, please send me encrypted mail, and Cc Don. Of course, you can't be absolutely sure which key is Don's... Maybe you should use the ultra-secure Enigma code instead of PGP. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." "Fight hate speech with more speech." "To the ends of the earth I will follow thee." "The pen is mightier than the sword." - -rich Institute for Ernst Zundel Revisionism http://36.190.0.210/~llurch/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/ "First, bring down Zundel's suffering in terms of numbers and events, both real and imagined, to what it really was, not what they say it was, what they exploit for their own political, financial, and geopolitical purposes." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMR6AzY3DXUbM57SdAQFPqgP/VUS9aydQjv6kmJc/fbg6exXQRl17RTKb EaUNftVUZJyMYLpOYg0X/UFH19fpBPQnbw1FFOiOMqSyc3pXtINUMpJZ1mmLI8Ro ZopVLS01d15cx+nZfVTjVF68eGthDgjKKAPZ/FXsn8/8tQtfq6jZsaDNBldWPjAX hlWEctOfdKo= =hck9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----