Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
Mr. Arachelian writes:
Well, here's a thought. Let's pool some cash together and go off and spam cyberpromo from the inside. Let's get an account there, turn it around and spam everyone and their mother at cyberpromo and their respective subdomains. Wouldn't that be sweet revenge?
If vengance is your concern, this is a good idea. Neither vengance nor righteousness is my concern, however. Judgementally speaking, if you spam, you may not continue to condemn spammers and be consistent. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." - Marcus Aurelius, 121-180
Dave Hayes wrote:
Mr. Arachelian writes:
Well, here's a thought. Let's pool some cash together and go off and spam cyberpromo from the inside. Let's get an account there, turn it around and spam everyone and their mother at cyberpromo and their respective subdomains. Wouldn't that be sweet revenge?
If vengance is your concern, this is a good idea. Neither vengance nor righteousness is my concern, however.
Judgementally speaking, if you spam, you may not continue to condemn spammers and be consistent.
Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your view? - Igor.
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:
Dave Hayes wrote:
Mr. Arachelian writes:
Well, here's a thought. Let's pool some cash together and go off and spam cyberpromo from the inside. Let's get an account there, turn it around and spam everyone and their mother at cyberpromo and their respective subdomains. Wouldn't that be sweet revenge?
If vengance is your concern, this is a good idea. Neither vengance nor righteousness is my concern, however.
Judgementally speaking, if you spam, you may not continue to condemn spammers and be consistent.
Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your view?
It certainly would be consistent with other terrorist acts perpetrated by Armenian criminals off and on the net - such as the genocide of the 2 million Moslems and Sephardic Jews in this century alone. I am not surprised that Arachelian's employer, Earthweb, condones his spamming. They sound like a thoroughly corrupt and criminal organization, since they even employ Arachelian as a network administrator. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
On Tue, 6 May 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
It certainly would be consistent with other terrorist acts perpetrated by Armenian criminals off and on the net - such as the genocide of the 2 million Moslems and Sephardic Jews in this century alone.
I am not surprised that Arachelian's employer, Earthweb, condones his spamming. They sound like a thoroughly corrupt and criminal organization, since they even employ Arachelian as a network administrator.
ROTFL! To quote the infamous snow: "Pot. Kettle. Black." A better question would be: How many people did you and your bots and your cohorts spam in this century alone? [Including Moslems, and Jews] And how many flame wars have you ignited? (And I promise that I won't tell anyone that you ate ham and cheese sandwitches with your white bread on passover unless I do so in public.) :) Now that I think about it... I suppose since Earthweb sells Java, and java contains caffeine (virtual mind you) and caffeine is addictive, you could say Earthweb is a virtual "drug" dealer, but corrupt and criminal? Ha! Oh, before I forget, remind me to send you a pack of Oren's Earthweb Blend coffee (which we give out at trade shows) one of these days. The first pack is free, once you're addicted... errrr... if you like it you can order more from Oren's Daily Roast. <evil grin> -- End of this off topic thread. Hehehhe! :) =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "So make a move and plead the fifth, |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com| 'cause you can't pleade the first!" |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ | |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, | For with those which eternal lie, with |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| strange aeons, even death may die. |..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com =========================
On Tue, 6 May 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your view?
It certainly would be consistent with other terrorist acts perpetrated by Armenian criminals off and on the net - such as the genocide of the 2 million Moslems and Sephardic Jews in this century alone.
I am not surprised that Arachelian's employer, Earthweb, condones his spamming. They sound like a thoroughly corrupt and criminal organization, since they even employ Arachelian as a network administrator.
1. What spamming? All this was hypothetical. 2. What I do from my accounts is my business and not Earthweb's. 3. The only criminal character that has spammed here is you - see all the "Timmy May" messages, the "news" messages of 100K+, all the spambots you've writen and posted here, and your flame wars. If anyone doubts this, they need to do a net search on the word "Vulis" to see your lovely work. Crawl back under your rock, you're boring us. If you can't come up with anything entertaining like you used to, don't bother. You're repeating yourself like the broken KGB mouthpiece that you are. To quote Monty Python "I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries." Now, either shut up, or do something worthy of your KOTM label. Yeah, and that is a challenge - incase you're too stupid to figure it out. =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "Boy meets beer. Boy drinks Beer, |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com| Boy gets another beer!" |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ | |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, | For with those which eternal lie, with |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| strange aeons, even death may die. |..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com =========================
On Mon, 5 May 1997 ichudov@algebra.com wrote:
Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your view?
Fictionally speaking, if the Prof. (when did I earn that title?) does hack Cyberpromo, the Prof wouldn't delete all the files, for doing so would simply cause them to restore their files from tape thus cause not much to happen. No, were I to do something like that (and I wouldn't) it would have to be something that would keep them down for a long time, not for eight hours while their tape drive restores stuff. Any suggestions as to what this would be for those out there willing to do such a deed? :) My own suggestion would be to hack into the routers surrounding them and set them up to connect any attempts to connect to machines outside cyberpromo.com on port 25 back to cyberpromo's own sendmail server. Setting up their sendmail configs to do the same would also be a nice backup. That would be IMHO a proper hack. (Anyone care to share router hacking techniques, and how to do such a thing?-- Again, not that I would do this myself.) =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "So make a move and plead the fifth, |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com| 'cause you can't pleade the first!" |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ | |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, | For with those which eternal lie, with |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| strange aeons, even death may die. |..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com =========================
some of the best hacks that I heard was to install a trojan instead of, say, cat, that would randomly change one byte in a randomly chosen file. this is hard to notice, and when you do notice that, all the backups are useless. basically, install lots of backdoors and then play with their minds. some ppl would steal CC# of their customers and publish them, but I would not do it. igor Ray Arachelian wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 1997 ichudov@algebra.com wrote:
Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your view?
Fictionally speaking, if the Prof. (when did I earn that title?) does hack Cyberpromo, the Prof wouldn't delete all the files, for doing so would simply cause them to restore their files from tape thus cause not much to happen. No, were I to do something like that (and I wouldn't) it would have to be something that would keep them down for a long time, not for eight hours while their tape drive restores stuff.
Any suggestions as to what this would be for those out there willing to do such a deed? :) My own suggestion would be to hack into the routers surrounding them and set them up to connect any attempts to connect to machines outside cyberpromo.com on port 25 back to cyberpromo's own sendmail server. Setting up their sendmail configs to do the same would also be a nice backup. That would be IMHO a proper hack. (Anyone care to share router hacking techniques, and how to do such a thing?-- Again, not that I would do this myself.)
=====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "So make a move and plead the fifth, |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com| 'cause you can't pleade the first!" |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ | |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, | For with those which eternal lie, with |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| strange aeons, even death may die. |..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com =========================
- Igor.
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