-----BEGIN PGP UNSIGNED MESSAGE----- I'll vote yes to the amended policy proposal

"make something that looks like a signature, or else".

While I tend to agree with the general argument presented in favor, I'll also agree that there are several problems with it: - Yes, it's too easy to circumvent the policy by cutting and pasting something that looks like a signature (more or less :-) - Even then, the 6 hour delay is not that much trouble when you are actually building a discussion, and not flaming... So it would be more like "if you want to flame, you better spoof"... hmmm :-( So, all in all, there is not that much incentive added to using signatures. I think any is better than even less, so I'll still vote "yes"... at least as an experiment... But here are some more ideas: 1) have the mailing list relay insert disclaimers according to what it recognized:

remailer: This message wholly un-authenticated. The identity info presented in this message could have been faked by a 6 year old. Use digital signatures.

or,

remailer: This message digitally signed. The pseudonymous identity used may have no relation with any Real Life Person.

or,

remailer: This message digitally signed. Signature checked to match previous uses on this list by this pseudonym.

or,

remailer: This message's digital signature does not match previous uses on this list by this pseudonym. This will be -version 2- of this pseudonym.

2) Campaign so that users of this list include "security disclaimers" whenever they post or email on the net. That could be a sig or a header line, such as "The identity info in this post could have been forged by a six year old. Do not trust it. Use digital signatures." 3) To make it more obvious that the From: field can say just about anything, use the "National Enquirer" headline generator that was posted on the net to replace the incoming header:

From: Diform Flying Saucer Throws Giant Tomato on the Pope

Maybe then, people will take that header less seriously... Pierre (who?) pierre@shell.portal.com -----BEGIN PGP UNSIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQBFThIsMayHAVEBEEnarealsiGNatUre, IFi onlYHaDEvERYthiNginPlace toCheCKINcOmINGSigsTOO. :-) =Bof -----END PGP UNSIGNATURE-----