Re: [STATS] Cypherpunks-unedited subscriptions
dang! i forgot to change. what's the moderated list being called? which is this one? yikes --- i've been paying attention to somether things. At 08:17 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
Total subscribers for:
Tue 14 Jan: 13 Wed 15 Jan: 15 Thu 16 Jan: 13 Fri 17 Jan: 14
Looks like one of two things: Either nobody wants the unedited list, or, some of the "regular people" subscribe to the edited list and "flames" list separately, to get both.
i.am.not.a.number@best.com wrote:
dang! i forgot to change. what's the moderated list being called? which is this one? yikes --- i've been paying attention to somether things.
At 08:17 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
Total subscribers for:
This is exactly the reason the jerks (Gilmore, Sandfort) CHANGED THE NAME of the original list, and had the *moderated* list co-opt the original name. This is one of the oldest and most well-used national security tricks in the book. When I asked Gilmore about this, he ignored my question and rambled on about some irrelevant thing. Surprised?
i.am.not.a.number@best.com writes:
dang! i forgot to change. what's the moderated list being called? which is this one? yikes --- i've been paying attention to somether things.
This is Sandfart's and Gilmore's trick - substitute a censored list for the unmoderated one, and hope that no one will notice. Also a lot "subscribers" to the original list are not real people, but local redistribution lists, or deamons who post the traffic in local newsgroups or archive it at various repositories. It would be a good little hack to send a 'who' to majorodomo to get the existing subscribers to cypherpunks, coderpunks, and cryptography(@c2), and forge a separate "subscribe cypherpunks-unedited" from each address to majordomo@toad.com. Then let the ones who don't want duplication unsubscribe from the original list (now moderated). If someone wants to pull thos off, but needs technical assistance, please e-mail me offline and I'll explain how to do it. Of course I can't subscribe to the "unedited" list because the lying cocksucker John Gilmore (spit) instructed his Majordomo to play dead when it sees my address. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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dang! i forgot to change. what's the moderated list being called?
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