
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such discrimination at Intel? (Such discrimination being based upon Title VII's dispirate impact scenario, a law that Tim and others disregard as is their civic, as in civil disobedience, duty.) I guess he was unclear when he stated "Fuck 'em" in a follow up post. Tim is an anarchist (and I do not mean that in any derogatory way). He not only advocates, but he practices what he preaches.
He has merely argued that an employer should be free *not* to hire an individual for any reason whatsoever. Such a reason might include his/her language/dialect, appearance, race, gender, religion or any other (arbitrary-to-an-outsider) criterion. This is a standard libertarian position and shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.
I think Tim's position was that if people couldnt communicate with him or his supervisors he would not recommend their hire. He had not stated as you did above, although I do not doubt it is his belief.
-- Jeff
P.S. I have posted to rebut several political points made on the list only to show that some of us on the list do not agree with certain viewpoints. As Tim has pointed out, it has caused an innordinant amount of flame bait and our signal is getting lost. I do accept responsibility for setting some of the fires but will now attempt to reply only to highly-crypto-relevant material on the list. Apparently folks get too excited when others disagree with them. Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMr73pbpijqL8wiT1AQHLQwP/U5jakb7Ed3Sm2GpxsbNYol549jitBpOX SI9D+cROf1jX2zz0iA6mXgwv/w9ywK5oranR7PMW7q5KB4yfy+rJQXhOLe/7Sbgp wEMu39iZ0pFgg1yjJlFS+X1kCOjC2AkniNrb5fyW/Ifk+R7iT/8a+hNN8R8rObdA RIDVj9xp5Jw= =iUqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

"Matthew J. Miszewski" <mjmiski@execpc.com> writes:
At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such discrimination at Intel? (Such discrimination being based upon Title VII's
So, don't buy Intel. AMD's MMX processor supposedly runs circles around Intel.
dispirate impact scenario, a law that Tim and others disregard as is their civic, as in civil disobedience, duty.) I guess he was unclear when he stated "Fuck 'em" in a follow up post. Tim is an anarchist (and I do not mean that in any derogatory way). He not only advocates, but he practices what he preaches.
No - Timmy is a "libertarian" (aka a fucking statist). --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Matthew J. Miszewski writes:
At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such discrimination at Intel?
Matt, buy a dictionary. "Practicing discrimination" is not the same as "advocating unemployment". I guess when I decline to hire you as my lawyer, I'll be "advocating your unemployment?" -- Jeff

Jeff Barber <jeffb@issl.atl.hp.com> writes:
Matthew J. Miszewski writes:
At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such discrimination at Intel?
Matt, buy a dictionary. "Practicing discrimination" is not the same as "advocating unemployment".
I guess when I decline to hire you as my lawyer, I'll be "advocating your unemployment?"
Suppose you want to hire a C coder and practice discrimination against the candidates who don't know any C. Do you advocate their unemployment? Do you even care, as long as you don't have to pay their salary? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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